Ok, I've given up on searching...

[Death]

...for a camera that store's its data in png. Does anyone know of a camera that takes 2+ MP images, and stores them in any lossless format (tiff, bmp, tga, raw, etc)?

[Death]

Goddammit! :mad:

[phishhead]

sorry most that i've ever come across are jpg.

[Death]

anything in tiff that isn't costly will do too. I don't need a fancy gizmo. I just need something that takes good pictures.

[phishhead]

why not get a nice 3.5-4 megapixal and convert it to the format you want.

[SupaStar]

Even the 5 megapixel digitals have dropped in price! If you take a photo with plenty of light on you subject you shouldn't experience much (if any) graininess or quality loss.

[petard]

PNG format? That's not a popular format for digital camera makers right now. It's pretty much JPEG. Your best bet is to get a decent camera and convert the file afterwards.

[Death]

Your best bet is to get a decent camera and convert the file afterwards.

png has lossless compression, but it takes more processing power. Depending upon the image, sometimes png compression gives a smaller file than even jpg. It's someting like zipping, but better. I have a problem with JPG's screwing up the image. By converting it to png you don't get back the lost data.

take a look at these two examples. The png is only 15.5 k and the image looks just like I saw it. While the jpg is 86.7 k and the data loss is apparent even at 1 compression level.

[Big Booger]

Get a camera that saves in raw or tiff mode. Then convert them to png after downloading them to the PC.
:D

[Death]

Hey, I said
By converting it to png you don't get back the lost data.

[Death]

Ok, sorry, you said raw or tiff... You know of any that DO save the images in any of these lossless formats AND are cheap? As I've said before, i don't need any fancy toy.

[Big Booger]

I don't know what you call cheap. You buy a cheap camera, more than likely you will be disappointed especially if you are worried about image quality.

I'd personally get a sony. The sony Mavica stores stills in TIFF mode.

• File Formats: JPEG, GIF, TIFF*, MPEG1

$299.95 2MP version:
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=ssaSV_UqnFOSbLQzbcmYXLo79JCJ1NOkRE0=?CategoryName=dcc_DIDigitalCameras_CDMavicaDigitalCameras&Dept=dcc_DIDigitalCameras&TemplateName=item%2fsy_item_b&ProductSKU=MVCFD200

$599.95 5.1MP version:
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=ssaSV_UqnFOSbLQzbcmYXLo79JCJ1NOkRE0=?CategoryName=dcc_DIDigitalCameras_CDMavicaDigitalCameras&Dept=dcc_DIDigitalCameras&TemplateName=item%2fsy_item_b&ProductSKU=MVCCD500

The 5 megapixel version even saves to CDRW.
• Recording Media: 3" (8cm) CD-R/RW Optical Disc

Both are great cameras.

Below are 11 digital cameras all supporting TIFF mode with varying price and feature ranges:

http://www.epinions.com/Digital_Cameras-TIFF-1_0_1_9_Megapixels

And below are 64 cameras that support raw mode:
http://www.epinions.com/search/?submitted_form=searchbar&search_string=RAW&tax_name=Digital+Cameras&dyn_nav=0&dyn_nav_id=&search_vertical=t104437121&searchbar_submit=Search

Hope that helps. But the bottom line is you get what you pay for. Buy a cheap camera and you'll not only be disappointed, you will also probably be upgrading sooner which in the long term will cost you more money.

:D


And if I had to make a camera purchase today I'd definitely go with Nikon:
http://www.epinions.com/Nikon_Coolpix_5700_Cameras

A bit pricey, but worth every penny. Every person I know who owns a Nikon has been more than pleased. That Nikon Coolpix 5700 supports both RAW and TIFF modes as well as JPEG.

[Death]

WOW, Awesome job. This is exactly what I wanted. Thanks man!

[Dehcbad25]

I have a Nikon CoolPix885. Got it as refurbished. It was quite cheap considering is a heck of a camera. This one can save in tiff too, with a file size of 9 MB exact.
One of our fellow TZ users game me a couple of links to a digital camera web site, and I pick it thru there (can't remember the web site thoguht)
I am sure that newer models thought are in the same proce range or even cheaper offering better quality. Get a refurbished. You will save 50% ;)

[Death]

the COOLPIX 885 is pretty good for $200, but I think it'll be great if I can get a refurbished "Sony CD Mavica® Digital Camera MVC-CD500" which BB's mentioned above. Now that really IS good, 156 MB CD's. What more do you need! :cool: