View Full Version : Removing a big silver P from an image
wumply
February 2nd, 2005, 00:29 AM
Hi:
Please see attachment. Is it at all practical to try and remove the big P and replace it with the brownish bushes and their sky background such as seen in the area to the left of the big P?
rohitk89
February 2nd, 2005, 02:14 AM
i have this software called arcsoft...and it has a photo edit tool that allows you to clone the adjacent areas onto the area of concern...u cud prolly use somin like photoshop or somin to clone the 'P' out...
wumply
February 2nd, 2005, 03:03 AM
Thanks. Yeah, I've seen that tool used...I dread trying to clone in tall thin reeds with long thin bits of sky between them--it would take forever and require an extremely steady hand, even I fear if you enlarged the picture to the point of pixelation. And patience comes hard for me!!
I had a dream that there would be an alternative.
rohitk89
February 2nd, 2005, 07:23 AM
I had a dream that there would be an alternative.
lol, and i had a fear that u'd know that my direction was time consuming :D...
perhaps egghead or lynchknot can help you in some way
Tinker
February 2nd, 2005, 13:58 PM
Some thing like this (http://24across.com/HotLinks/Techzonez/images/Girl1.png)
I will try and blend a little better if this is what you are looking for.
:)
Big Booger
February 5th, 2005, 10:18 AM
I'm no wizard, but here's my go at it.
wumply
February 5th, 2005, 14:51 PM
BB: So how did you guys actually remove the P. My understanding of the process is that you have two little balls on your screen the distance between which can be varied. You move one of them with your mouse while the other one picks up and transfers the color of the area where it is located. The result is that the lifted color apears where you postion the ball that you drag around with your mouse. You can vary the size of at least one of the balls. This is approximately how Corel PhotoPaint did it.
In this situation with all those reeds so close together with little bits of sky between them it would have taken hours. HOURS!
I doubt you spent 5-6-7 hours; did you do it some other way? Did you somehow remove the entire P and then replace it with an equal lift from the reeds on the left side of the image in one fell swoop?
Big Booger
February 6th, 2005, 00:53 AM
Basically I used photoshop. I took the eliptical marquee, and removed the P. That created a big white blank circle. So then I used the "heal" tool and borrowed scenery from the nearby area. Slowly filling it and blending it as best I could. It took about 25 minutes I think. BUt if you wanted to spend an hour or two you could get it looking nearly perfect if you wanted to.
I tried to do as you stated and life one big swoop from the left side and move it to the blank P area.. but it added a huge ring around that area. So then I tried blurring and blending and healing.. but it didn't look so nice.
wumply
February 6th, 2005, 01:15 AM
Well, that's a useful, suspicion-confirming response, BB. My suspicion was (probably obviously) that to get a really good result, it is just very time-consuming and very precise process. And I know a little more now from reading about how you first tried it.
wumply
Tinker
February 6th, 2005, 14:11 PM
:D
I hope you like it.
egghead
February 6th, 2005, 14:21 PM
is that the right pic?
I see the pic with the circle still visible
:confused:
Tinker
February 6th, 2005, 14:23 PM
:D
I hope you like it.
Tinker
February 6th, 2005, 14:27 PM
is that the right pic?
I see the pic with the circle still visible
:confused:
There is a circle there but it fits. I was having a difficult time with removing what was there and making it look correct. So I came up with this idea. If it is not what wumply wants I can keep working on it. :)
wumply
February 6th, 2005, 15:46 PM
Tinker: A neat solution but unfortunately the sentiment doesn't fit in with my emotional concept of the picture. So I would really like you to go ahead and work to improve the picture itself. Will you be comfortable putting in the time it will take and do you feel you have the time? And do you have some estimate of the time and cost?
Tinker
February 6th, 2005, 17:01 PM
We can do one of two things here. You can tell me what you would like it to say or I will keep working on another solution.
Is the circle the only thing that you do not like about the image? If there are other things that need changed I want to do it all at once. No charge for you wumply, consider it a "Techzonez benefit".
wumply
February 6th, 2005, 17:24 PM
What I want is to remove that circle 100% and replace it with the reeds and sky background so it looks as identical as possible to the reeds/sky appearance to the left of the circle area.
You removed the "rich and true NYT book review words"--good!
Tinker
February 6th, 2005, 17:33 PM
"If ever I saw a man that can take a stand then I would admire fear as defeated"
:smoke:
egghead
February 6th, 2005, 17:34 PM
Check this out. (http://24across.com/HotLinks/Techzonez/images/wumplyimage44.ti)
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Tinker
February 6th, 2005, 17:35 PM
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You guys are too fast for me :D I fixed the link...
wumply
February 6th, 2005, 18:00 PM
Tink: Got your 1:33 PM ET message with its wumplyimage44.tif file. But when I tried to open it Photoshop gave me this message: "Could not open wumplyimage44.tif because an unexpected end-of-file wasl encountered." What to do now...I don't know? And did you mean to call it 'wumplyimage44.tif' or just 'image44.tif''? (if that matters, which I doubt.)
Tinker
February 6th, 2005, 19:50 PM
600x800 image (http://24across.com/HotLinks/Techzonez/images/600x800NortherLight.png) for hot link viewing.
;)
egghead
February 6th, 2005, 20:06 PM
Nice work Tinker but the image is cropped and the neck looks smudged...
That pic is a hard one to reconstruct because many of the visuals need to be redrawn from scartch and using the imagination.
very hard
good work both of you!
Tinker
February 6th, 2005, 20:15 PM
Thanks egg
The image I used is what wumply E-mailed me and it was already cropped. The smudge is suppose to be clouds over the reeds. Guess I still need to do some work on that.
:embarass:
egghead
February 6th, 2005, 22:38 PM
heres my go at it
http://img222.exs.cx/img222/4497/northernlight16vv.jpg
and a clearer pic
http://img238.exs.cx/img238/2149/northernlight25ne.jpg
this ones too tough for me :(
frustrating
removed a blemish in pic 2
wumply
February 6th, 2005, 23:52 PM
Well, egghead, I put your 2 tries side by side and while they ain't perfection, you did some darn good work. AND...I can understand your frustration...my patience would not match yours.
Tinker
February 7th, 2005, 01:31 AM
Nice work egg. This is turning into a TZ effort and that is a good thing.... :)
egghead
February 7th, 2005, 01:39 AM
hey thanks
I did make a huge mystake if you look at the center of the shirt i forgot to remove the exccess and it overlapped
so it looks like a huge bunch of bushes
i guess you could say i forgot to trim
i was going to cut it so you would only see the bushes on one side but i messed up and they are in the middle as well
sad thing is i flattened the image and stupidly savewd that in photoshop
dumb dumb dumb
oh well...
i did give it a try and had fun
now i think i will put celebs faces on porn haha ;)
wumply
February 7th, 2005, 02:26 AM
Tink: I sent you an email to your email address earlier today but you've probably gotten that by now.
Egg: Reading your further post here about what you did, I don't think that putting the bushes in the center even if unintentional, detracts at all from the original. It could so easily have been that way when the original photo was taken. And after this 2nd. look, I'm more mpressed than with my first look.
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