amd64 3800+ on ga-k8nxp-sli

[TestMAD]

Has anyone here OC'ed this setup?im lookign to OC to 3Ghz from 2.4. I'm new to OCing so please explain very well.thnx

[efc]

When you start overclocking, you are usually able to obtain larger gains from a lower rated chip that the fasted in a series.

Hot Hardware (http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?page=2&articleid=531&cid=1) were only able to raise the 3800+'s clock speed to 2.58GHz (158MHz, or a 6.5% increase).

Tell us how well you do?

[TestMAD]

well..i read the article and they said that they think the culprit behind the low clock was the mobo, and they also stated they had "early engineering samples". My outlook on OCing this processor is still good though. I've spoken to a few ppl that were able to get a stable 2.7Ghz on these things. Most tho ask why I would even try to OC a 3800+. Im a good example of "Tim Taylor" syndrome...THE MORE POWER THE BETTER. <GRUNTS>

[FastGame]

Every system is different so only you will know how far you can go. I'd say on air up to 2.6 would be reasonable, after that comes down to many variables and cooling is the main one.

Lets us know how it goes :D

[phishhead]

a big player in OC'ing is getting your hands on some good thermal paste and some high quality ram.

[FastGame]

a big player in OC'ing is getting your hands on some good thermal paste and some high quality ram.
Yep, in the end a high FSB will mean more than the CPU clock, ram......

[TestMAD]

Here's what i got.

AMD64 3800+ w/stock HSF
Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI
GeIL GL5123200DC 512MB Kit DDR400 PC3200 Ultra Series Dual Channel Memory w/Platinum Heat Spreader
2 EVGA 6600 GT 128MB PCI-E on SLI setup
PowMax dual fan 550Watt PSU ***waiting for delivery on feb. 16***
Thermaltake Tsunami Case w/120mm Front/Rear fan and side fan
im also using round cables and i used my last bit of arctic silver.

since this CPU is only 2.4Ghz, i thought it would be simple enuff to 2.7 Ghz on aircooled. But im drooling over some Thermaltake water cooling kits. Watercooling may have to kept in mind when trying for the 3Ghz. right now my CPU stays at 29-32o celsius, even at a heavy load. iv'e had some ppl tell me that is really awesome and leaves lots of room to play with. However, i may hit the local puter store and dget some waterblocks and then hit the pet store for a pump and resevior. My brother-in-law is about to trash his old dorm room minifridge. i may have to get that from him and run a chilled setup. dunno. lots of things to think about and that minifridge idea would make an awesome mod, especially if i found a way to put the whole pc in the fridge.

[santino]

got any suggestions as to what wud be better, crucial or pny? i've got an amd 2500 barton core athlon xp on a soyo kt400 dragon ultra mobo. ~s

[FastGame]

minifridge idea would make an awesome mod, especially if i found a way to put the whole pc in the fridge.
I already did that years ago ;) even after I mounted the power supply on the outside of the fridge it couldn't keep up with the constant heat produced by the CPU & GFX card.

IMO for you to get 2.7++ your going to need chilled water and a bunch of $$$ as a minimum.

[edit]=got any suggestions as to what wud be better, crucial or pny? i've got an amd 2500 barton core athlon xp on a soyo kt400 dragon ultra mobo. ~s
santino we wanted your avatar size reduced, the font size was ok :p

Oh sorry, "crucial or pny?" Crucial :)

[phishhead]

testmad your ram is higher end so that wont be an issue.and the nforce chipsets are great OC'ers.

[TestMAD]

this is a post from another OC forum im on...let me know of yer opinions.

Go to your bios and enter the "M.B. Intelligient Tweaker" (M.I.B) menu.

CPU Frequency: [250.0] Change this value using "+" and "-" on your numpad
CPU Spread Sprectrum: [Center Spread]
PCIE Clock: [100Mhz]
K8 CPU Clock Ratio: [Default] or [12]
Robust Graphics Booster: [Auto]
CPU Voltage Control: [Manuel]
Normal CPU Vcore: 1.500V is default but you're probably going to have to raise this
Core Power voltage control: [Normal]
HT-Link Voltage control [Normal]
DDR voltage control: [Normal]

Now the default CPU Frequency is 200.0 and you CANNOT just immediately jump it to 250.0 and think it's going to be okay. I usually jump the frequency by increments of 10mhz then run Prime95 for a night to see if the overclock is stable or not. You can speed it up a little but don't try jumping all the way with one try. Now lets say you overclocked to 2.6ghz or so and you cpu temp isn't that high but your computer keeps restarting and having stability issues, You have to now change you CPU Vcore to a higher setting. 1.500 is the default you can try increasing the vcore by increments of .025 so you can try 1.525 and see if that helps. Now increasing Vcore can bring stability but it will also increase your cpu temperature so don't up the Vcore unless you have to.

Unfortunately the manuel of your motherboard didn't show me all the menus in the bios so on some of these you're going to have to find on your own.

Your HTT should be by default set to 1000mhz. It's basically the cpu frequency 200mhz x 5 = 1000mhz with multiplier of 2 making it effective @ 2000mhz. When you increase you CPU frequency the HTT goes up as well. i.e if you CPU frequency is 210 then the HTT is 210mhz x 5 = 1050mhz x 2 = 2100mhz
People have stability issue when the Hypertransport goes above much higer than 2000mhz. So remember to find this option in the bios and change the multiplier to 4, That way when you reach your goal of 250mhz cpu frequency the HTT willl be 250mhz x 4 = 1000mhz x 2 = 2000mhz.

Also, this shouldn't really be an issue because by default most bios has the option in auto, but if you can also find a menu that lets you choose you're ram frequency. Since you have PC3200 ram it's highly doubtful that you'll be able run your ram syncronously with your cpu frequency of 250mhz (if you get there). So you have to drop your ram to PC2700 DDR 333 speed or as some bios use (5:3) divider. Therefore if you do hit 3ghz your cpu frequency will be 250mhz x 12= 3000mhz and your ram will run at approx 210mhz x 2.

[FastGame]

this is a post from another OC forum im on...let me know of yer opinions.
It depends on what forum and who posted the suggestions. I've only seen you @Yoshi's, what other places do you go ?

I don't know about your MB so I can't comment are what the best settings should or should not be. I do know that you shouldn't get hung up on the HTT speed, if you have to lower it for stability you won't lose much (if any) in performance.

I do know about your CPU, for you to reach 3ghz+ you have your work cut out ;)

What is it you want this PC for, benchmark king or gamer ?

For extreme overclocking, IMHO you could have made better choices (MB,Ram,CPU).

Looking at your system spec's, you have a Monster game rig pure & simple, you should be able to crush any game in your path. Why don't you just OC your CPU as far as you can on air and be happy your in the upper echelon of the PC world :cool:

[phishhead]

I mean a 3800xp 64bit with duel SLI why bother OC'ing.

[TestMAD]

lol. i've been hearing that alot. i like how u described my system. ive jsut noticed that with some programs, it lags like my AMDXP 2200+. it's just a little discerning since i spent 600$ for this CPU and only 250 for the 2200 back when it was still a new chip..

The new PC will only be used for my webdesign proggies and some serious gaming. I guess yer right about the choice i made. like i said tho, that lag i sometimes experience is bugging me abit. Im starting to think that its cus im still running winxp32..not a 64 bit os, but after looking at a few benchmarks for this cpu and the vidcads, i noticed that while running this setup in a 64 bit env. is great..but when u get to gaming it is actually hindered by the 64 bit os cus of the virtual 32bit layer used to run them. thats when i decided to stick with winxp32. the thought of mandrake did cross my mind but im not that well versed in the world of *nix. Ohh.. im also on www.hardwareanalysis.com

[TestMAD]

What kind of HS/Fan would u guys suggest for this CPU?? iwas looking at the XP-120..but come to find out..its not on the compatibility list...plus i would have to remove the plastic mount..would a gigabtye fan possibly werk better since i wouldnt have compat issues?

[Conan]

What kind of HS/Fan would u guys suggest for this CPU?? iwas looking at the XP-120..but come to find out..its not on the compatibility list...plus i would have to remove the plastic mount..would a gigabtye fan possibly werk better since i wouldnt have compat issues?

This one:

http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/comboCool/pipe101/pipe101.htm

Just pair it up with a suitable 90 mm fan.

[FastGame]

yeah what Conan said :)

I use the Venus 12 (http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/venus/rs/a1744.htm), it works real good but you'll need ear muffs if you turn the fan up to High :eek:

If I bought another HSF it would be the one Conan has or I'd modify my MB for the Xp-120, but thats me. I don't recommend someone voids the warranty on their MB, so thats your decision....

Let us know how the XP-120 mod turns out :D

[TestMAD]

i got a response from thermalright today...and badnews is that none of thier current HS's will work on the mobo/CPU combo i got...well..there goes that. anyother suggestions besides the thamaltake HS above?

[TestMAD]

tried a quick OC..i got it to 2.5 GHz and things were fine...htt=4 cpu=210 ram was still at 200 tho...i upped dthe voltage on vcore to 1.525 to keep the pc from rebooting and idle temps where around 40oC..when i put cpu=220 it wouldnt get stable..it would lock up..i tried to lock ram at 133 and still locked up..should up vcore to 1.550??

[FastGame]

should up vcore to 1.550??
Now your going to find out why we said cooling is so important.

Your CPU will be fine at the highest voltage your MB provides, that is if you have proper cooling ;) you should be able to do a vcore of 1.6-1.65 with your HSF, ???? maybe...

My XP 3400 is @ 1.525 vcore and 2.5 ghz so your in the right ball park :) I don't want my fan to sound like a Jet plane so thats where I keep it.

Also like I said before, FSB is where its at so work on upping the Ram and less emphasis on the CPU.

Anywhoo to answer your ? 1.6 range vcore should be ok, check the temp and work on the FSB.

[TestMAD]

i odnt mind if it sounds like a jet engine..the altec lansing speakers i got kinda drowns it all out...and the when i dont have the soun d turned up so loud..the fans help drown out the wife screamign at me from another room about how i spend too much time on my pc..i was curious about the voltage tho..i red some specs..and this CPU is only rated for 1.550..not sure on the ram yet..still looking for those specs..

[FastGame]

i was curious about the voltage tho..i red some specs..and this CPU is only rated for 1.550..not sure on the ram yet..still looking for those specs..
Your the one who wants to OC, what the heck "specs" mean ? OC'ers make their own specs :p

Your ram is rated @2.55V-2.95V so have at it :)

BTW anyother suggestions besides the thamaltake HS above?
Whats wrong with the HSF Conan suggest ? I would trust his judgment in a heart beat, you should see his overclocked car :cool:

[TestMAD]

OCed car?? ok?? well..ill invest into the new HS/fan next week sometime...till then ill oc with stock..and with what im doing..would cooling my ram be a good idea?? or do u think that the plates will cool enuff? ohh..i did mod my PSU..i noticed that the 120mm fan inside it was kinda slow..i took it out and it was a cheap generic..so i put a thermaltake 120mm from my old case and used it..i cant feel any hot air comign out of this thing anymore, and it seems to be much quieter. ill tinker with OCing more tomorrow tho. it's late where i am.

[FastGame]

ill tinker with OCing more tomorrow tho. it's late where i am.
Ok, its late where i am to, got to go have sex then come back here and keep an eye on cash_site :idea:

C U tomorrow :cool:

[TestMAD]

what proggie would u guys suggest for me to use to monitor my temps??

[Conan]

what proggie would u guys suggest for me to use to monitor my temps??

Speedfan: http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

[TestMAD]

ive been reading that prime95 is the proggie to test for a stable OC...where can i get it?and also..when im OCing..i increase my clock...then let it run for like 5 minutes..then up the clock more..then run for another 5 minutes until it errors out??when it errors out...back the clock back down and run for 24hrs? that sound right?

[TestMAD]

also i just noticed that one of my case fans wasnt sensing right..and then it just quit sensing...i tried another fan and got nothing. they both use 4pin molex and then have a 3pin that goes to mobo for the sensing lead..what could cause interference with that? could it be my cold cathode that close to that wire??yer opinions pls?

[TestMAD]

ive tried lots of monitoring utils and some dont even support my board..or like in speedfans case..it lies.it has one of the temp sensors at 70oC and the gigabyte monitor is saying 32oC all the time..and my BIOS is saying 39-40oC...what do i do?

[FastGame]

BIOS is saying 39-40oC...what do i do?
If you flash your bios it'll probably say something different, use what ever comes closest to your bios.

[TestMAD]

new thing happening..i got a clock at 2.64Ghz..and umm..no matter what i do the ram is gonna suffer and the HTT will as well..just a little...but anyways i can get a stable OC..as appeqars to the eyes..but when i orime95 it..i get an error either immediately or within a few seconds. igot my vcore at 1.550 and my ram is at +2..and 1T..cpu freq is 220 and multi is 12..htt is 4..what should i do now?

fastgame,is there anyway that we could chat thru IM or something and do this..since im such a n00b?

[FastGame]

fastgame,is there anyway that we could chat thru IM or something and do this..since im such a n00b?
ahh yes the IM...but then the world wouldn't see you graduate :D and if I log on others will see me and I won't be able to type fast enough to keep up with everyone.

If your system doesn't run Prime95 then its not stable and the OC is to high, plus you have your ram all goofy.

I need to download the manual for your MB. What is your IM ?

[TestMAD]

Jimmy26301 on AOL
or
on IRCHighway ill be in room #OverClocked
if u got on irc, i can lock the channel down after u get in..and then it'll just be us in there..

[FastGame]

Well I downloaded your manual (10mb) and the stupid thing doesn't tell me anything about the bios settings & how I go in to change CPU & ram settings :(

Without knowing your MB/bios and where to change settings its hard for me to say go here and change this to that.....

I know ABIT, ASUS and MSI not Gigabyte :o

These guys know your board like the back of their hand Here (http://forums.pcper.com/forumdisplay.php?f=11) and Here (http://www.abxzone.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=92) and Here (http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=48&sid=47c67c174965d731e20f90fcb5ba8c4b)

It would be best if you study what they're doing, at the moment I'm tied up & cant be on the net long. Sorry

[TestMAD]

this is gonna be a big post..but here..take a look when u get a chance..its a breakdown of the bios and all selections:

GA-K8NXP-SLI Motherboard - 48 -
CPU Frequency
200.0~400.0MHz Set CPU Frequency from 200MHz to 400MHz.
CPU Spread Spectrum
Disabled Disable CPU Spread Spectrum.
Center Spread Set CPU Spread Spectrum to Center Spread. (Default value)
PCIE Clock
100~150MHz Set PCIE Clock from 100MHz to 150MHz.
K8 CPU Clock Ratio
Default Set K8 CPU Clock Ratio to Default. (Default value)
x4 800MHz ~x11 2200MHz. Set K8 CPU Clock Ratio from x4 800MHz to x11 2200MHz.
Robust Graphics Booster
Select the options can enhance the VGA graphics card bandwidth to get higher performance.
Auto Set Robust Graphics Booster to Auto. (Default value)
Fast Set Robust Graphics Booster to Fast.
Turbo Set Robust Graphics Booster to Turbo.
CPU Voltage Control
Supports adjustable CPU Vcore from 0.800V to 1.750V by 0.025V step. (Default value: Normal)
Warning: CPU may be damaged or CPU life-cycle may be reduced when CPU is over-voltage.
Normal CPU Vcore
Display your CPU normal voltage.
Core Power voltage control
Normal Set core power voltage as required. (Default value)
+0.1v Increase core power voltage +0.1V.
+0.2v Increase core power voltage +0.2V.
+0.3v Increase core power voltage +0.3V.
Item Help
Menu Level
HT-Link voltage control
Normal Supply HT-Link voltage as HT-Link required. (Default value)
+0.1V Increase HT-Link voltage +0.1V.
+0.2V Increase HT-Link voltage +0.2V.
+0.3V Increase HT-Link voltage +0.3V.
DDR voltage control
Please note that by overclocking your system through the increase of the DDR voltage, damage
to the memory may occur.
Normal Supply DDR voltage as DDR required. (Default value)
+0.1V Increase DDR voltage +0.1V.
+0.2V Increase DDR voltage +0.2V.
2-8 Load Optimized Defaults
PC Health Status
PC Health Status
detects.

if u can find time next week that would be great..im not gonna get online too much this weekend.

[TestMAD]

heres a mod i did today when i got bored...DUAL PSU in Thermaltake Tsunami

and i know..i get points off for not matching colors..owell..thats why it has a front door that i can close. i still got a few things to do before its final..im gonna make a new box for it so it mounts using those plastci HD mount thingies..and then im gonna run the cable thru the bottom of case and run out back..its a werk in progress..but my rig actually seems to be running better. the first psu runs only the mobo..the second psu runs all my fans and HD's..

[Conan]

heres a mod i did today when i got bored...DUAL PSU in Thermaltake Tsunami

and i know..i get points off for not matching colors..owell..thats why it has a front door that i can close. i still got a few things to do before its final..im gonna make a new box for it so it mounts using those plastci HD mount thingies..and then im gonna run the cable thru the bottom of case and run out back..its a werk in progress..but my rig actually seems to be running better. the first psu runs only the mobo..the second psu runs all my fans and HD's..


Interesting mod!

[TestMAD]

well hey...what can i say..atleast anyvoltage i got for PSU can be for a stable clock cus everything is run from PSU2...but anyways..i was messing around with the timings to no avail..i got up to 220 2-3-3-6 2.6v..but i was geting werrors..so i changed to 2-3-3-5..and got errors for all voltage i could put..but i got less errors the less voltage i ahd on it...again..im using this geil ram..and theres not alot about the OC timind for these things..plus i may be doing the timings wrong..i dont understand it..any help would be appreciated.

[Conan]

I normally run memtest so I know how far my memory can take me when overclocking.

http://www.memtest.org/

[TestMAD]

yea..im running 1.51 iso.. that where im getting errors from..i just wish i knew more bout timings...thru all the guides and advice ppl have given me..i still dont know what im doing and ill be the first to admit it..i was actually hoping that someone would have some free time to chat me thru this..ill learn better.

[TestMAD]

well...good news everyone...i was told i wouldnt be able to run my ram at 250 1:1...well..buess what...they were wrong..
i got this geil going at cas3-4-4-9 250 at 2.8v..but cpu multi is at 6..lol..i cant bump it up till i get better cooling...any suggestions on the RAM?? im gonna try tightening the ram a bit more..see what i can get

edit: make those timing 3-4-4-5 250 at 2.8v
edit2: 3-4-4-5 250@2.6v :)
edit3: 3-4-4-5 250@2.6v cpu x10 htt x4 52-53oC at full load..need better HS/fan before i go anymore..not bad for stock cooling..
what u think?

[FastGame]

what u think?
I think you learned real fast :)

How high can you go with your ram set to 2.5 3 3 8 @2.8v ?

Make sure your ram is set to 1T and not 2T command rate.

Looks like you've done a nice job so far, as long as the PC is stable :D

[Conan]

If you're getting errors, here's what you do. Relax the timings and/or bump up the memory voltage. If the errors don't go away then it's probably CPU related and you really have to reduce the FSB.

[TestMAD]

with edit3 i get no errors..at all..i let memtesst run for 8 hours with 0..but the processor temp has me worried..the ram tho can prolly go higher..but thats as high as i want it to be..since i only want 3ghz. OC when im done...may order the hp101 today or tomorrow..not sure..ill try 2.5 3 3 8 like fastlane suggested..but im gonna start off with normal voltage and go up.im also trying 3 3 3 5 and 2.5 3 3 5..hope all goes well..
i can say tho..ddr501 looks nice...thinkng that in a few weeks i may actually buy some, or make a trade somewhere..

edit; none of those worked.
deit2- seems like 2.5/3 4-4-5 at normal voltage is only way im gonna get 250..nothing else will post.
and i get no errors at 1t or 2t

[FastGame]

im also trying 3 3 3 5 and 2.5 3 3 5..hope all goes well..
forget the "5" part of the timing, 5 does nothing but cause an unstable system. It actually should the the total sum of the first 3 timings...3+3+3=9 Try 8, 9, 10, or 11

i can say tho..ddr501 looks nice...thinkng that in a few weeks i may actually buy some, or make a trade somewhere..
yeah and that DDR500 prolly has some slow dog a$$ timings that your PC 3200 can do...you have top notch ram so save your money.....

[TestMAD]

ive been messing around with timings more...and ive got a combined index of 6743MB/s speed fact 6.5 with sisoft cache and mem bench..reading int buff 6840..and flaot buff 6749..i ahd it higher earlier..but the speed fact was 6.7..owell..ill go back and try what u said in last post..

[cash_site]

Ok, its late where i am to, got to go have sex then come back here and keep an eye on cash_site :idea:

C U tomorrow :cool:
I dont get it FG, but wait till i tell the stories of my mates Bucks Nite... all I can remember is saying "Yes Miss Officers, i've been bad and need to get handcuffed"

By the way TestMAD, great job in the mod and O'C your system... seems to be a good step forward and gives others more confidence in tackling unknown systems :D Cheers.

[TestMAD]

Thnx cash_site. im hoping to get a new HS/Fan soon..that way i can progress with the cpu..
im gonna post a cpuz screenshot along with the verified link tonite

[FastGame]

I dont get it FG,
:rolleyes:
LOL, yeah he comes up with the Bright Ideas :p
:idea:

So TestMAD hows it going ?

[TestMAD]

this is the best i got..
.cpz-z verification..

3424

have a look. thats with the 2.5 4 4 5 at normal voltage..thats the only thing i could get at 250..3 3 3 9 and all that didnt werk no matter what i did.but its stable..and it werks..so im happy with the ram. i could prolly push it more..but im not willing to melt my RAM to my mobo right now..sorry.

edit..the cpu multi was at 8 for the verification..i was doing some testing and forgot to up the multi to 10

edit2..what would be better?? 4-4-5,4-4-8,or 4-4-9?

[TestMAD]

im still stuck on a heatsink..the hp101 is rated up to 3400+.. i got a 3800+..
any ideas?

[FastGame]

edit2..what would be better?? 4-4-5,4-4-8,or 4-4-9?
I don't know what to say...your the only one I know who can get their ram to run @250fsb with your TRAS set to 5 but crashes at 8, 9, 10, 11 :confused:

will your ram run at 3 4 4 8, 3 4 4 9, 3 4 4 10 or 3 4 4 11 ?

im still stuck on a heatsink..the hp101 is rated up to 3400+.. i got a 3800+..
any ideas?
Is there some reason why you don't like the one Conan uses ?

[TestMAD]

nothing against it.i just want to make sure im getting the best hs/fan i can get if im gonna push my CPU... i paid 600+$ for it..i dont want to fry it.

like i said tho..its rated up to 3400+..i got 3800+. and ill try those other settings and get back to u.

edit: it will run at 3-4-4-5,6,7,8,9, should run at 10 as well..what didnt werk was 3-3-3-9..or any varient of cas or tras.would it be better to run at a tras of 8 instead of 5 with current setting of 2.5-4-4-5?

[FastGame]

nothing against it.i just want to make sure im getting the best hs/fan i can get if im gonna push my CPU... i paid 600+$ for it..i dont want to fry it.


Well i'm running a XP 4200+ with my OC, i'm using the Venus 12 which is the model below the one Conan has....keeps my system fine ;)

The one Conan has is keeping his hotrod P4 cool, all the top end air HSF are close in performance and all have a limit. None of them will keep you from frying your CPU, only you can prevent that.

edit: it will run at 3-4-4-5,6,7,8,9, should run at 10 as well..what didnt werk was 3-3-3-9..or any varient of cas or tras.would it be better to run at a tras of 8 instead of 5 with current setting of 2.5-4-4-5?

Like I said before...I don't know how you're running the ram @250fsb with a 5 TRAS at stock voltage, nothing I ever had would do that even if I raised the volts.

On AMD TRAS around 10 is a sweet spot, try 8, 9, 10, 11

[TestMAD]

i know that 9 and down to 5 on tras werk..so ill try 10...and i guess ill use that hp 101.
lemme ask wife what i have to do to get it..she's had enuff of me buying computer toys. i swear if we ever get divorced..it'll be over a PC..LOL. brb with that test at 10 and 11

ohh..and is my RAM good for being able to do what im doing with it with the settings and all??

[TestMAD]

10,11,12 werk with 2.5-4-4 at normal voltage

[FastGame]

10,11,12 werk with 2.5-4-4 at normal voltage
how did you run Memtest & Prime95 that fast :p

ohh..and is my RAM good for being able to do what im doing with it with the settings and all??
http://www.techzonez.com/forums/showpost.php?p=86334&postcount=5

lemme ask wife what i have to do to get it..she's had enuff of me buying computer toys. i swear if we ever get divorced..it'll be over a PC..LOL. brb

You better stay out of the Hardware Forums, if you get Jones diseases your wife is gone.....

[TestMAD]

no prime95..just memtest test#5 10passes...i get failure on prime95 at same place everytime..sent email to them about it..they're considering it a bug with amd64's....ill let whatever i get tonite run on memtest (all tests) overnite.

[TestMAD]

conan, what would be better on my 3800+, the hp101, tower112, aerocools ht101, or coolermasters hyper 6???

[Conan]

conan, what would be better on my 3800+, the hp101, tower112, aerocools ht101, or coolermasters hyper 6???

I can only vouch for the 101 as I haven't tried out the others. Big Booger has the tower 112 and we have similar load temps (but the 112 is pretty huge and heavy while the 101 is really compact).

Before I bought the 101, I was using a Zalman cnps7000 Alcu. The 101 is much better at load temps. You can also vary the performance depending on the fan you choose. I got 2 fans, a Zalman 92mm fan which runs at 2,700 rpm and is quite silent and I also have a Thermaltake UFO fan that can go as high as 3,600 rpm but is mighty noisy. I prefer the Zalman fan for everyday use.

[cash_site]

they are some cool and awesome HSF kits Conan, they look great too :D

[TestMAD]

i raised my cpy multi today from 10 to 11 and it locked up..what is the problem?
do i need to up the vcore?? if so..how much?..

[FastGame]

What FSB are you at ? still 250 ? thats 2750mhz and you arent going to do that with stock V-core.

Keep raising the v-core a bit at a time till it works, if raising the v-core doesnt help then the CPU is at its limit or limit of your cooling.

[TestMAD]

im gonna be orderng a hs and fan in a day or two and some more ram...in two more weeks im gonna get a real PSU. one that cost me more than 30$..what would u suggest for OCing in the range of 550watt??

[TestMAD]

Good new and bad news...

Bad news first.
I've found out thru testing that this current system will only be able to achieve 2.6Ghz stable with air cooling...i dont understand y with others hitting 2.7. im attributing it to the mobo and PSU i have.

Good news.
After begging my better half, she's going to allow me to build a new system over the next few months. I'm looking at a 5-6 month process due to waiting on AMD dual cores to be released and the fact that this is not going to be a budget system by anymeans.Here's what im going for to start with... any suggestions would be great.

CASE - CM Stacker or a Lian (would prefer dual PSU setup for stabilty)

PSU - OCZ ModStream 520 (less cables) or OCZ Powerstream 600 (more power) Whatever is chosen, there will be 2 purchased.

COOLING - Swiftech's H20-220-64 for CPU w/Chipset cooler. Also a second 220 radiator for the dual vid cards i want to have. All running from one pump.

MOBO - Hopfully DFI will offer boards that will support dual core AMD's as soon as the chips are realeased. this could be done though a simple bios update. But a DFI LANPARTY nF4 SLI-DR or better release would be great.

CPU - Hopefully the AMD dual cores will be available once i get to this point. With the Venice and SanDiego cores due for realease mid April, this shouldnt be far off. I hope to purchase the best of what is available when I'm shopping for a CPU.

RAM - Corsairs TWINXP1024-3200XL or 3200C2 ( the LED display for a realtime temp reading would be nice) or i would go for PQI's PQI3200-1024DPU which would be really awesoem to have.

VID - I'll be getting 2 Nvidia 6800 Ultra GT's or..if theres a better nvidia choice by then..ill get that...And, i kick myself for saying it, but, im keeping an eye on ATI for a dual GPU setup.OF course..if someone could stick 2 6800 ultra GPUS on one PCB, and get them to connect with another card...hehehe. 4 x 6800 ultra GPU setup would be killer.i know alot of ppl that would put a sticky spot in thier "undies" over that.

STORAGE - Of course i would have to get all SATA..nothing less.

I am considering using 2 fanless PSU's... but im kinda weary of those right now...i would like to go for an almost silent setup..but i could always put some better fans in the PSU's if there is better and quieter.

Now, i know this is a monster of a rig...it would decimate all..and the price tag would decimate my wallet and finances over the next few months...thats why i changed my mind from using the Vaporchill and use the swiftech setup instead.that'll be 500$ i can save..im not going to be in the need of phasechange cooling..i hope..ill be pissed if i end up doing that in the long run. This system is meant not only as a gamerig for me..but also as a benchking. let me know what you think..and post what yer thinking.

and NO!! this isnt a bunch of BS. ive already contacted swiftech about getting my hands on a custom package direct. and the CM stacker will be purchased at hte beginning of next month, unless someone proves to my y i should go with lian li with what im wannting to do,..and prolly an item every week from there on, if finances permit. but, as there is time before i start getting things pls tell me any of yer concerns and suggestions.

PS- my marrital status will be updated with every purchase that i post as recieving. :D

[FastGame]

PS- my marrital status will be updated with every purchase that i post as recieving. :rofl2:

Aren't the dual cores going to be for high end servers and cost a millon dollars ? well not a millon but heard a whole bunch....

Man all that stuff is killer, I'm jealous and we'll have to switch names :D

Actually I think you've done quite well with what you have :cool:

[TestMAD]

well on my current system..the ram i got is sweet..and even with a HT101 my cpu is getting good temps..but im topping out around 2.6 as far as stability goes..which im seriously leaning towards getting that dfi board listed above for it..and OCZ's modstream 520 for it..and see if that fixes my problem...if not..then im gonna have to settle on the fact that the cpu is whats wrong..and that would suk. but owell..next CPU i get is for my next system. Oh..and for anyone wondering..im not a richboy..im 27 years old..and live with my inlaws..LOL. i dont have bills to pay, so my money can go other places for now.


EDIT - looks like the AMD 64FX 57 may be way to go for new system CPU. Scheduled for release in april..i think its on the 15th or 17th..SanDiego core, 90nm, SSE3 support, and 2.8Ghz/14 (freq/mutli). the AMDs for ddr2 support and desktop dualcores wont be available till 1st quarter of 2006 it'll be the Orleans core. Looks like AMD wont be hitting the 3Ghz mark on retail CPUs this year..or atleast a bit into next year either. For those about to upgrade... the FX-57 will not surpass the CPU's that are being realeased thru 2005. by that i mean that AMD4x00+'s will by the end of the year equal the 57 as far as freq/multi is concerned. the only difference will be the core's and cache..venice/512L2 for 4x00+ and Sandiego1MB L2 for FX. both have extra layers of copper interconnects. if i find anything on the cores themselves..ill post here.

[TestMAD]

well..after looking around for a bit, ive decided to go with a DD 6800 waterblock for gpu/ram...instead of the swifttech that only covers the GPU.


and after reading the furoms for a bit..i noticed im not the only one with a smiley avatar...and after seeing the other one on here..i decided to remake it... so egghead..this is for you..

[TestMAD]

what do you guys think would be better to look at water cooled..the cmstacker..or the Lian Li PC-V2000?

[TestMAD]

ok..i need everyones info on this. i've done alot of reading and i think that swifttech makes the best watercooled setups availabe..but there's DangerDen and PolarFlo to consider..what i need is every to tell me what they think before i buy a custom modded case from voyeurmods for roughly 1000$.it's pretty much up to a vote by the forum members cus i cant make up my mind. Pls help.