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eden1
August 2nd, 2005, 20:07 PM
Hi all - im curious if anyone else has had any connection problems with vista as ive just installed it as a dual boot with my xp home(i know but its legit)and it loads up fine along side xp the only problems ive had have been a few sharing issues between o.s's and this damned connnection problem..
I have a valid i.p address which is exactly the same under xp (which you would expect) the connection settings within ie7 and firefox are all correct (mirrored from xp) deactivated firewalls,even added valid dns servers etc, am still at a loss...
in brief : p4 2.6gb with 512mb ram - on 1mb blueyonder
win xp home - connection fine
win vista beta1 - no connection
Phew .. end of rant...:confused:
Any help appricaited guys n gals.....Eden
Big Booger
August 3rd, 2005, 03:33 AM
Is your NIC being recognised?
eden1
August 3rd, 2005, 05:58 AM
Is your NIC being recognised?
yeah sure Biggy i have a valid ip and the nic is not a problem in device manager ect......
any wizer?
ta Eden1 :o
beelzebub
August 3rd, 2005, 08:14 AM
What Ip protocal are you using (i.e. IPv4 or IPv6), is windows firewall on?
What connection are you talking about, to the internet or to a LAN? If you do have a lan do you have access to it?
Big Booger
August 3rd, 2005, 08:21 AM
THe LAN is broken mostly in Vista... or so I've been told.
I dunno. It is a BETA.... don't forget that.
And you could try renewing or releasing the IP.. YOu could try uninstalling and reinstalling the NIC.
You could try setting the IP info manually in the NIC properties.
Also you could use your XP network setup wizard to create a configuration disk. Then boot into Longhorn and try to use that disk to setup your networking in Longhorn... but there is not guarantee that that will work.
eden1
August 3rd, 2005, 11:16 AM
the ip is fine m8 when release/renew/repair is ran longhorn reports back "no problems"
i dont have a lan setup its just my internet connection, and the weird thing is its just browsers that dont connect , my avast anti virus updates no problem ?!?!?
the nic is also fine no errors there...
Puzzled....Eden1:confused:
rik
August 3rd, 2005, 12:51 PM
Are you running a SW firewall? If so, see if it has your browsers blocked.
Big Booger
August 3rd, 2005, 13:35 PM
Have you tried removing the NIC in Device manager and reinstalling it? If without errors, perhaps reinstalling it might fix your issue... It's worth a try.
Have you tried opening up a command prompt and pinging your localhost? Have you tried pinging websites???
If so what reply do you get if any?
If not, why not try that?
I have also read that the Vista Windows Firewall has to be set every time you boot to allow your browser access.... that could be the problem. It seems that it won't hold the config settings once you have configured it and then rebooted.
Another thing I read on another forum was that several Nvidia based motherboards where having issues with onboard network cards... they couldn't connect even when everything appeared to be working and properly configured.
When they did a driver update with drivers that were compatible with Vista, everything was successful. But as you didn't list your NIC type or motherboard I cannot be certain that this information is applicable to your situation.
eden1
August 3rd, 2005, 17:16 PM
Hiya m8 my spec is - via - P4M266-PM12-TC mainboard
Network Card 2: D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (rev.A)
Network Card 3: SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
im using the sis card atm.
off to try again ,i'll get there eventually lol...
Peace Eden1:)
gforce
August 5th, 2005, 17:05 PM
Not sure if my connection problem using Vista is the same as the original posters, but after installing Vista with XP Pro as dual-boot, i completely lost my internet connection under XP. I would get the "X" across the local area connection icon which said my connection was physically unplugged. When i booted back to Vista... my connection was fine.
Now the funny part... yesterday i installed Vista on a stand-alone harddrive on my computer at work which has the exact same Motherboard as my home system with the broadcom onboard LAN(Asus P4PE). This morning, i decided to swap harddrives back to my XP Pro drive and low and behold... the exact same problem as i am having with my home machine. The connection is gone... "X" across the local area connection icon.
I powered down the machine and unplugged it and then yanked the battery on the motherboard for a few minutes and put it back in and powered it back up.
Now my connection for my XP Pro is back!!!
Big Booger
August 5th, 2005, 17:11 PM
Not sure if my connection problem using Vista is the same as the original posters, but after installing Vista with XP Pro as dual-boot, i completely lost my internet connection under XP. I would get the "X" across the local area connection icon which said my connection was physically unplugged. When i booted back to Vista... my connection was fine.
Now the funny part... yesterday i installed Vista on a stand-alone harddrive on my computer at work which has the exact same Motherboard as my home system with the broadcom onboard LAN(Asus P4PE). This morning, i decided to swap harddrives back to my XP Pro drive and low and behold... the exact same problem as i am having with my home machine. The connection is gone... "X" across the local area connection icon.
I powered down the machine and unplugged it and then yanked the battery on the motherboard for a few minutes and put it back in and powered it back up.
Now my connection for my XP Pro is back!!!
That is quite odd. But I suppose it might be worth checking out for the user having the connection issue. Thanks for sharing gforce.
spydar
August 5th, 2005, 23:18 PM
Hey Eden,
I had the same problem...its AVAST. I could not connect to the internet, but if you disable the Avast On Access Protection...IE7 has no problems with internet connections. I wonder if this is an IE7 issue with Avast or Vista? Have you installed IE7 on an Xp system and run Avast? Does it work?
Conan
August 6th, 2005, 00:34 AM
Hey Eden,
I had the same problem...its AVAST. I could not connect to the internet, but if you disable the Avast On Access Protection...IE7 has no problems with internet connections. I wonder if this is an IE7 issue with Avast or Vista? Have you installed IE7 on an Xp system and run Avast? Does it work?
I've installed IE7 on XP with Avast and my internet connection had no problems.
egghead
August 6th, 2005, 01:05 AM
well my 2 cents
dlink router and vista
trying to install soundcard
lost internet.
but not just internet. I could no longer access other computers. even after multiple reboots
turns out vista spiked my router or something and simple solution was to unplug router power for a sec.
weird
no joke
eden1
August 6th, 2005, 02:14 AM
im gonna try the possible solutions in the morning
some good/interesting ideas bouncing around ,,,,
ill let ya's know....cheers eden1
Jether
August 8th, 2005, 10:09 AM
Hi
I think Iam having the same problem but its a little weirder.. an overview of my sytem first:
harddisk 1 - XP media center - everyhitng works fine
harddisk 2 - Vista beta 1 - having problems with internet
(Iam also having problems with the dual booting but that dosn't matter for now)
Anyways, in IE7 I can't visit any websites EXCEPT (and heres the weird thing) www.google.com!!! Nothing else works, it looked like the nic wasn't working or somthing then Itry gogle and everything works. I can search but not follow any of the links. I will try some of the things suggested here. I am also about to try firefox but seeing as thats for XP I don't expect that to work at all. Iam also going to try MSN messenger to see if I can get a connection there.
Oh yeah, and when you submit problems and it ties to find solutions, that all seems fine and it must be connecting to some kind of server for microsoft, so it can't be my hardware.
And another thing Iam using SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (which is the same as eden1's)
I have no idea whats going on, anyone?
Big Booger
August 8th, 2005, 10:13 AM
firefox works fine in Longhorn. I think you have an issue with your hardware and longhorn.
Jether
August 8th, 2005, 11:15 AM
yeah firefox does work (the same as IE7 though (only google.com)). I don't think its a hardware problem, I can ping any site and get replies. I installed MSN messenger and that won't connect to the server but there is a connection troubleshooter in it which is interesting. It tests certain aspects of your connection abnd it had little green ticks next to these 5 options:
IP
default gateway
hosts file
DNS
proxy server
And it timed out or didn't work on these 3:
IE's offline setting
Key ports
Wireless
I've also tried completly disabelling the firewall, but only google.com works there aswell. Also I found that if I go to news.com it will bring in the title of the page but nothing else. Its very weird, its as though Vista is filtering out sites it dosn't like (ie the whole web apart from google)
Any ideas?
Jether
August 9th, 2005, 20:10 PM
Ooooh i can also get on cisco.com :D...
Big Booger
August 10th, 2005, 03:10 AM
Have you tried making a new hosts file in Vista? And matching IP addresses with the websites you want to visit? That is an idea.
Also, are you using any kind of router, switch or hub?
Jether
August 10th, 2005, 06:54 AM
I don't know what you mean about a hosts file. But Iam using a router and vista does crash it from time to time so that could be the problem. Iam still looking into it.
Nouki
August 10th, 2005, 12:40 PM
hi,
I am the same problem. My internet connexion goes to www.google.com, www.cisco.com, and i'm finding www.msfn.org too.
Same results on IE7 & Firefox
Jether
August 10th, 2005, 12:51 PM
Are you using a router or are u connecting straight onto the internet? Can you tell me anything about how you customized Vista so far, I need to see whats the same and whats different about our computers.
Jether
August 10th, 2005, 14:50 PM
Ok i found a few more sites that i can go to lol, this one (iam typing on Vista atm) download.com and mozila.org. I can't get to apple.com or microsoft.com. Can anyone see any similarites between the sites I can't access? For instance if it tries to load other files, like java or javascript or somthing. I can't see any difference, it just seems to be random.
Big Booger
August 10th, 2005, 15:02 PM
try connecting without your router... I suspect that might be the culprit.. if not you can rule it out.
Jether
August 10th, 2005, 20:06 PM
I can't connect without it, the vista comps upstairs and the router is downstairs. We've tried lots of things now and mym dads tried "fixing it" but hes only managed to break my ATI dirvers now so I got crap refresh, no internet and this is annoying me now. Ill keep trying.
Big Booger
August 11th, 2005, 02:05 AM
I don't know what you mean about a hosts file. But Iam using a router and vista does crash it from time to time so that could be the problem. Iam still looking into it.
http://accs-net.com/hosts/how_to_use_hosts.html
There's some info about the hosts file. That may work and then again it may not.
Can you get in your router config and also try to setup the Longhorn box as a DMZ? You should find that setting in your router config.
Jether
August 11th, 2005, 08:07 AM
OK ill look at the hosts stuff, whats DMZ? sorry iam a bit of a noobie with the terms and stuff...
Big Booger
August 11th, 2005, 11:28 AM
OK ill look at the hosts stuff, whats DMZ? sorry iam a bit of a noobie with the terms and stuff...
In the router configuration (differs by maker) there is usually a setting for opening all ports up to a specific internal IP on the LAN (192.168.X.X). You put your internal IP that your PC uses into a prompt and check the enable DMZ box and bam your computer is now open to the WWW... it is useful for troubleshooting port issues.. but you shouldn't use the DMZ all the time unless you have a software based firewall installed and even then it might not be a good idea.
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