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shadow_warez
November 23rd, 2005, 05:14 AM
okay i need the vets and others to give me a hand if ya all can help that is, this might be hard lol, okay heres goes,

I need a amd 64 mobo that has Certified Support for 4 gig duel Channel ram via 2x2 gig sticks, and SLI If possable,iv set aside $6000 for this new rig, so if ya got time go to work =), thanks in advance to every for thier hard work searching,:eek:

Devil
November 23rd, 2005, 12:07 PM
Nice but... why AMD? Lol!
http://www.tomshardware.com/ and http://www.anandtech.com/ are a good sites for reviews and benchmarks!

But think about it, with all that money? Ill buy a Intel solution!

shadow_warez
November 23rd, 2005, 19:10 PM
iv Built a few high end intel solutions against my wish's but they wanted intel so i builtto thier order, and i built same in a amd solution and of course the amd beat the intel in every aspect, it even beat it in power consuption, amd is a bit pricey for the really high end stuff but you pay for what ya get and sometimes you get lucky and get a good overcloking cpu, plus amd has the only real 64 gaming cpu, the intel dont match up very well against it, but for all this amd does have a down side it cant use DDR 2 yet, and thats a bummer but it still has ultra low latency ram, but that in short is why i choose amd, iv had better experiances with it and in past very speedy returns on overclocked to death cpus =),

shadow_warez
November 25th, 2005, 18:32 PM
:eek: heres the list so far,

1,A8N32-SLI Deluxe
2,Acer Ferrari F-20
3,Kingston 2GB Kit DDR PC3200 X 2
4,AMD 4800 Duel Core
5,Enermax® Liberty SeriesELT620AWT
6,Lian Li PC-V1000
7,Coolermaster Hyper 6+

waiting to find a good Sata 2 hd,:eek:

FastGame
November 25th, 2005, 18:44 PM
The list looks good except, get Crucial Ballistix instead of Kingston. On the HD why mess around ? WD Raptors ;)

shadow_warez
November 25th, 2005, 23:16 PM
i want to get the full bandwith of sata 2 in this system maybe wd will release one in the nexy few months lol, other then that whats the diff between cruial isnt that usualy a low costing brand? or have they come into thier own age and make serious ram? basicly reason im goin with kingston is becuase i can duel channel 4 gig by 2x 2gig sticks, and thier only going to cost me $460 for 4 gigs of ram, lol.

zipp51
November 26th, 2005, 02:17 AM
What's the Acer Ferrari F-20? Sounds like the laptop that Acer makes.Good choice for a case,I've got a P60.I have read recently that Antec power supplies are the most stable especially with the high end video cards out there.:D

cash_site
November 26th, 2005, 07:57 AM
yeah SW, you forgot to add the video to your list?? Nvidia 7800 or ATI x1800 ??

shadow_warez
November 26th, 2005, 21:50 PM
reading reviews of differnt 512mb 7800 gts and seeing which actually support HDR, cant seem to find any that say they have i found 6600's that have it lol but no 7800s yet, and hoping for a 1 gig version of mem per card lol, but i cant wait that long,and for cash heres the monitor,

1, Acer Ferrari F-20 (http://www.bytewizecomputers.com/products/7/12/193/11021)

beelzebub
November 27th, 2005, 05:00 AM
Case: Thermaltake Tsunami $115
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811133132

CD/DVD DL Burner: LG IDE Black $39.99 (x2)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827136071

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA2 $331.50 (x2)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148108

RAM: OCZ Platinum pc4000 1GB $151.44 (x4)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227224

Monitors: Acer AL1951B 19" 6ms 700:1 400 cd/m2 $369.00 (x2)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824009051

Motherboard: ASUS A8N-SLI Premium $163.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131540

Power Supply: ENERMAX Liberty 620W $174.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817194004

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ $787.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103544

Video Card: eVGA Geforce 7800GTX $479.00 (x2)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130234

Extras:
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic $119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102188

Tv Tuner Card: Hauppauge WINTV401 TV/FM Tuner $70.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116606

Speakers: Logitech Z-5500 5.1 $206.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16836121120

Total: $4681.71 (with out tax or shipping)

I am never going to use intel (bring down the beast).

jan
November 27th, 2005, 13:31 PM
Inre to the hdd(S) I would suggest you consider the Seagate 7200rpm SATA with NCQ which actually beats the 10K SATA's.

If you dont believe me you can read more here. (http://www.seagate.com/cda/newsinfo/newsroom/releases/article/0,1121,2102,00.html)

Drives are here. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=BROWSE&manufactory=1305&bop=and&page=2)

Its what Im using now. :cool:

FastGame
November 27th, 2005, 15:07 PM
Inre to the hdd(S) I would suggest you consider the Seagate 7200rpm SATA with NCQ which actually beats the 10K SATA's.
There's one 10K SATA it won't beat, the WD 74g Raptor is king of the non-SCSI types :)

The Seagate is a nice drive and certainly worth consideration, here's how it stacks up against the competition StorageReview.com (http://storagereview.com/articles/200510/ST3500641AS_1.html)

Here's (http://storagereview.com/php/benchmark/bench_sort.php) a good pull down for sorting all the HD's rankings through all benchmarks, also has option for Head to Head comparison.

BTW SW, can you give me an example of why you need 4gig's of ram ? I can't think of why 2gig's isn't plenty.

shadow_warez
November 27th, 2005, 16:18 PM
i plan to run a server from a ramdisk, and plus i can use 4 gigs to install certain games into the ram, like wow,wich seems to disconnect me about 251 tims a day, no mater what i do i still get disconnected, heres my old rig ,

1, A7N8X Deluxe rev 2.0
2, 1 gig duel channel ram
3, 80 gig ata 133 maxtor diamond 9
4, 350 watt psu enermax
5, gerforce fx 5900 xt 128
6, dlink 510 g gigabit nic,
7, game theater xp 7.1

thats the specs that disconnected me 251 times a day, and no matter what i do i couldnt fix it so i built a new rig,

1,Nforce 3 Neo 2 amd 64 from msi,
2,1 gig byoc duel channel
3,250 gig wd sata.
4,geforce 5900 XT 128
5, marvel gigbyte nic,
6, amd 64 3600+

still same thing dissconects me 160 times a day,

so im opting to build a machine that wont have such problems or atl leat under 100 disconects a day,

my cable provider is set to 5 mbs down 1.5 mbs up, and they dont know why it happens, so thats why im building this new rig, and getting as much ram as possable in deul channel config, im looking into the 4800+ duel core for better gaming hopefully,

beelzebub
November 28th, 2005, 00:04 AM
the dual core will not help for a few years, interms of gaming, the only thing dual core is good for right now is multimedia stuff, i.e. photoshop and making a dvd at the same time. but getting one now will make your computer almost future proof.

Oh yeah inreference to WD, I have had really bad experiences with them in the past. And, i dont trust one at 7200rpm, much less at 10000rpm. But, I guess when you take a SCSI hard drive and put a SATA controller on it, you still get the durability of SCSI. When it comes to hard drives I prefer Hitachi or Seagate. Unfortunetly newegg did not have the Hitachi 500gb Sata2 in their catalog, anymore, so I had to post the Seagate one.

shadow_warez
November 28th, 2005, 16:06 PM
well i was readingo n new egg that alot of ppl were having probs witht he 500 gb drives,but i guess thats natrueal as it is new technolgy and mother boards are still getting updates to actualy use that much space, but really all in want is to use sata 2 since its supposed to be faster then sata 1 by 50% and hopefully run a server os from a ramdisk,plus fix all probs with World of Warcraft,

beelzebub
November 28th, 2005, 23:06 PM
Then if your just for the speed a WD Raptor would be nice. The largest size is 74gb per hard drive though, i think.

Or you could get a SCSI controller and get actual SCSI drives.

Nate89
December 13th, 2005, 00:21 AM
Case: Thermaltake Tsunami $115
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811133132

CD/DVD DL Burner: LG IDE Black $39.99 (x2)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827136071

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA2 $331.50 (x2)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148108

RAM: OCZ Platinum pc4000 1GB $151.44 (x4)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227224

Monitors: Acer AL1951B 19" 6ms 700:1 400 cd/m2 $369.00 (x2)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824009051

Motherboard: ASUS A8N-SLI Premium $163.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131540

Power Supply: ENERMAX Liberty 620W $174.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817194004

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ $787.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103544

Video Card: eVGA Geforce 7800GTX $479.00 (x2)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130234

Extras:
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic $119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102188

Tv Tuner Card: Hauppauge WINTV401 TV/FM Tuner $70.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116606

Speakers: Logitech Z-5500 5.1 $206.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16836121120

Total: $4681.71 (with out tax or shipping)

I am never going to use intel (bring down the beast).

sorry i havent been here in so long i have kinda lost touch with the TZ community so much other stuff goin on what with football and the playoffs and winnin state and everything but im back now if it makes any difference but anyway back to the point

the motherboard that you have chosen doesnt say its compatable with the athlon x2 and ive heard some users having problems with asus motherboards but if you would like to go with asus then get the ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe =http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131568
and as far as the case i would either get something bigger so you can add more fans or add water cooling because one 7800gtx can heat things up quite a bit and if you end up getting 2 of them then you'll be smokin there

that's about all i can think of

beelzebub
December 13th, 2005, 02:07 AM
First off, any socket 939 mobo can take a dual core amd processor.
Secondly, the deluxe was not listed on newegg at the time of my previous posting.
Thirdly, the 7800gtx runs cooler than the 6800ultra.
Fourthly, the Tsunami case is large and has very good cooling with two 120mm fans and a 90mm fan, and as far as i know there are more fan bays.
But, i do agree with the liquid cooling idea, that would be better than air cooling. Only, having water or any liquid flowing around any electronics makes me feel nervous.