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Big Booger
September 8th, 2006, 00:20 AM
NORWICH, England (Reuters) -- Global warming over the coming century could mean a return of temperatures last seen in the age of the dinosaur and lead to the extinction of up to half of all species, a scientist said on Thursday.

Not only will carbon dioxide levels be at the highest levels for 24 million years, but global average temperatures will be higher than for up to 10 million years, said Chris Thomas of the University of York.

Between 10 and 99 percent of species will be faced with atmospheric conditions that last existed before they evolved, and as a result from 10-50 percent of them could disappear.

"We may very well already be on the breaking edge of a wave of mass extinctions," Thomas told the annual meeting of the British Association for the Advancement of Science.

Scientists predict average global temperatures will rise by between two and six degrees centigrade by 2100, mainly as a result of the heat-trapping carbon dioxide being pumped into the air from burning fossil fuels for transport and power.

"If the most extreme warming predicted takes place we will be going back to global temperatures not seen since the age of the dinosaur," Thomas said.

"We are starting to put these things into a historical perspective. These are conditions not seen for millions of years, so none of the species will have been subjected to them before," he added.

Thomas said scientific observations had already found that -- as predicted by the climate models -- 80 percent of species had already begun moving their traditional territorial ranges in response to the changing climatic conditions.

"That is an amazingly high correlation. It is a clear signature of climate change," he said.

Not only had the animals, birds and insects started to react, but there was evidence vegetation was also on the move.

For example, climate-triggered fungal pathogen outbreaks had already led to the extinction of more than one percent of the planet's amphibian species, Thomas said.

Not only would some species simply find no suitable space to live anymore, but there would be confrontations with invasive species being forced to move their territory. This would produce not just wipe-outs but species' mixtures never seen before.

And the changes would all happen at a faster rate than ever before in evolution.

"In geological terms 100 years is effectively instantaneous," Thomas noted.


http://edition.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/09/07/climate.change.reut/index.html

I know personally I don't want any more heat. I have had all I can handle as it is. But I won't live to see 2100... so maybe it's ok for me. My grandchildren better have thick skin and sunscreen though ;)

This is shocking news in all honesty, but how can we predict what will happen exactly in 100 years... that's a long way off (could people 100 years ago predict how things are now?)

PIPER
September 8th, 2006, 09:04 AM
Well all I can say is.....man has been aware of all the crap that he has been doing that affects our environment. A few are concerned and others take the attitude of....100 years from now nobody will know the difference.....duh....like you said, what about future generations.......but look at it from this point of view.....adaptation to the environment for most species will probably come to pass.....isn't this how the world evolved up to the point we are currently at?.....not that this is a fix.

rik
September 8th, 2006, 13:14 PM
oh look...the sky is falling also http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5539/curtianpeekow0.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Big Booger
September 8th, 2006, 13:19 PM
If it does go that way, this is what you get to look forward to:

The Mesozoic Era was the time from 248 million to 65 million years ago. During the Mesozoic, the Earth was very different than it is now. The climate was warmer, the seasons were very mild, the sea level was higher, and there was no polar ice. Even the shape of the continents on Earth was different; the continents were jammed together at the beginning of the Mesozoic Era, forming the supercontinent of Pangaea, but would start breaking apart toward the middle of the Mesozoic Era.

Toward the beginning of the Mesozoic Era there was a depleted ecosystem world-wide. Many of the old life forms had just gone extinct in the Permian Extinction, the world's largest mass extinction. This depleted state was followed by an explosion of new life forms, which included the dinosaurs and mammals, and later in the Mesozoic, the birds and flowering plants.

FastGame
September 8th, 2006, 13:41 PM
C'mon you guys believe this ?

The only "Global warming" threat this world faces comes from the Middle East, North Korea, China. I hear Nuclear fusion is one hot subject.

If we're headed back to the "Mesozoic Era" we'll have Mushroom Clouds., not volcano's.

Oh my, did I say that :hide:

Big Booger
September 8th, 2006, 14:03 PM
I don't know what to believe.

http://www.publicaffairs.noaa.gov/releases2003/oct03/noaa03-124.html

That article leads you to a trend that it is increasing but nothing too alarming...

Who knows the long term impact of CO2 emissions.. but I think it'd be prudent to err on the side of caution and to take global warming more seriously just in case.

I do believe that cars, oil, factories and other forms of CO2 producers are not good for the environment.

I am dying to see Al Gore's movie. :D

Conan
September 8th, 2006, 19:56 PM
This whole week our weather suddenly feels like we got catapulted back into summer and we're supposed to be entering the cooler months in the middle of the rainy season.

bionicblond
September 11th, 2006, 06:57 AM
Well all I can say is.....man has been aware of all the crap that he has been doing that affects our environment. A few are concerned and others take the attitude of....100 years from now nobody will know the difference.....duh....like you said, what about future generations.......but look at it from this point of view.....adaptation to the environment for most species will probably come to pass.....isn't this how the world evolved up to the point we are currently at?.....not that this is a fix.

:whs:
The earth will be here, whether or not we will be on it, is another topic completly.

cash_site
September 12th, 2006, 00:16 AM
Another issue with myths surrounding it is the opposite to Global Warming, that is, Global Dimming... This is the Next Ice Age. Meaning, after some Warming, and increased Ozone / CO2 etc, it will block the sun light, and start to cool the world. In this downward spiral, the temps will plummet and everything will freeze! Killing more than warm water will ;)

I think we all should be concerned, and do our bit. :D

bionicblond
September 12th, 2006, 15:17 PM
You are so right @ Cash
So, who is going to be first to give up their SUV?
(I gave mine up 2 years ago)