Help with video card

[lynchknot]

Thanks to fastgame!
I installed the new video card (from ati8500 to ti4400) but my 3D mark scores are lower - will someone help me to set-up this card? Shouldn't it do better than the ati card? I installed the new drivers (43.51). thanks. Also, I am not able to uninstall ati drivers through add remove.

OLD CARD:
Score: 1514
Date: 2003-03-25
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 1614 MHz
GPU: ATI RADEON 8500/9100 Series
302 MHz / 302 MHz
OS: Microsoft Windows XP
Res: 1024x768@32 bit


NEW CARD:
Score: 1473
Date: 2003-04-14
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 1614 MHz
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400
275 MHz / 554 MHz
OS: Microsoft Windows XP
Res: 1024x768@32 bit

[Big Booger]

If you are using the new Futuremark benchmark, it is biased towards ATI products IMHO..

Try the older 2001 version.

:D

[lynchknot]

Thanks BB, i'll have to go to the website because this won't run.

http://www.techstarcomputers.net/~sighost/sigs/y.jpg

[Conan]

Originally posted by Big Booger
If you are using the new Futuremark benchmark, it is biased towards ATI products IMHO..

Try the older 2001 version.

:D

I totally agree!:D

[lynchknot]

I turned down the refresh rate from 85 to 75hz - then I was able to run 2001 - here are the scores - there should be room for improvement - I hope! - Also, I installed coolbits but cannot find it - it is not in the usual place - if at all.

Score: 8359
Date: 2003-04-14
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 1614 MHz
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400
OS: Microsoft Windows XP
Res: 1024x768 32bit

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Score: 7519
Date: 2003-03-13
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 1614 MHz
GPU: ATI RADEON 8500/9100 Series
OS: Microsoft Windows XP
Res: 1024x768 32bit

[FastGame]

You got something goofy cuz that card was doing over 12,000 on my box and it should smoke a ATI 8500

From looking at your scores it looks like your CPU is now your bottleneck & if thats the case then OC'n the card won't help, but I think things aren't right cuz on Phishheads system that TI was doing 10,800 with a 1.4 T-Bird.

[lynchknot]

Halo FG - top score for a P4 at 1600mhz is 9929 - they don't give tweak info though for 2001

[phishhead]

hey lynch since that ati works so good in your box just send me the TI ok:p

[lynchknot]

hehe :p got to do some tweaking..................they are pretty close in 3D2003. I can't get coolbits to show up.

[FastGame]

Originally posted by lynchknot
Halo FG - top score for a P4 at 1600mhz is 9929 - they don't give tweak info though for 2001
Hmm I guess your CPU is holding you back :( I know that 4400 shouldn't slow down in games where the 8500 did or would ??

Hey BB , Conan , what do you guys get for 3D 2001 on your P4's ?

[FastGame]

Originally posted by phishhead
hey lynch since that ati works so good in your box just send me the TI ok:p
Geezz good idea :p send it to a AMD fanboy who can get the best out-ta that card...J/K

[phishhead]

and keep it COOL:D

[lynchknot]

Got coolbits working now - turned it up to 300x601 and got Score: 8878 - much better from default settings@8359 - how far can I safely take it FG? it is "smoking" ati's best of 7519

[lynchknot]

3Dmark2003 improved - 2nd "place" with these settings for a P4 at max 1700mhz - i'm going to duplicate this guy's setting to see if we can edge him out - only 9 points -

3DMark Score: 1559 First Run (NCO)
Date: 2003-3-1
Res: 1024x768 32 bit
OS: Microsoft Windows XP

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 1699 MHz
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400
300 MHz / 650 MHz
User: xxxxxxx
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3DMark Score: 1550 Untitled
Date: 2003-4-14
Res: 1024x768 32 bit
OS: Microsoft Windows XP

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 1614 MHz
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400
300 MHz / 594 MHz
User: kenlynch@hotmail.com

[FastGame]

Originally posted by lynchknot
Got coolbits working now - turned it up to 300x601 and got Score: 8878 - much better from default settings@8359 - how far can I safely take it FG? it is "smoking" ati's best of 7519
Just leave it at 300x600 thats what a Ti4600 is...your CPU is holding you back & no sense in burning card up trying for a few measly 3D points...it's Game play that counts & how does it play ?

[lynchknot]

yeah, i'll reset it - it's now at 3DMark Score: 1605
the temperatures are actually cooler than when the ati was in it's at 96F/84F. and I left one fan out.

Thank you soooooo much Fastgame! :D

[FastGame]

Your welcome ;)

Now you need a 2.4gig P4 :D

[Big Booger]

Glad to see you get it up. IN the 2001 benchmark I pulled a 9000 with a TI4200 + P4 1.6

The 2003 was a lot worse at around 1392.. the CPU is the bottleneck.. I am biding my time for a more serious upgrade to a 3.0Ghz hehehe Might wait for the 3.2 if it comes out.. as that will double the CPU speed, which is when I have decided to upgrade.

I will have to get a new MOBO, chip, and hopefully some new ram and faster ram. Dont know if I will stay with RAMBUS or go the DDR route.

I have even been debating joining the darkside and going with AMD.. the Barton looks especially sweet.

[phishhead]

Originally posted by FastGame
Now you need a 2.4gig P4 :D

or an AMD 2800xp;)

[Conan]

Originally posted by FastGame

Hey BB , Conan , what do you guys get for 3D 2001 on your P4's ?

I get around 9200 or so with my Ti 4400 on my P4 1.7. I think what's holding his score back is his left over ATI drivers. With that gone I think he'll breach the 9 thousand mark.

[lynchknot]

This is what I see, trying to uninstall - what should I do?

http://www.techstarcomputers.net/~sighost/sigs/remoce.png

Can my PC be upgraded in the future with a faster processor? Or do I have to use Sony parts.

[Conan]

Originally posted by lynchknot
This is what I see, trying to uninstall - what should I do?

http://www.techstarcomputers.net/~sighost/sigs/remoce.png



Lynch, try going back to the Default Theme of Windows XP then try to uninstall again the ATI drivers. If that doesn't work, download this and see if it'll help:

http://www.driverheaven.net/cleaner/DCSetup_131.zip

[lynchknot]

I think, maybe, I deleted the folder before uninstalling. Thanks Conan, I think the cleaner worked! :D