Not enough memory for scanner?

[lynchknot]

I got a "30 day loaner" from best buy - hehe

But I get this message:

http://www.techstarcomputers.net/~sighost/sigs/error.gif


Trying to run the software for it. What does it mean? I don't have enough memory to run a scannner? That's ridiculous.....this computer....sheeeeeeeshhhh.

Gee, I only have 48GB of free space left on drive C - maybe the scanner needs more huh?

[Conan]

Try to reboot your computer if that'll help.

[phishhead]

and close all un-needed TSR's

[lynchknot]

What's a tsr? I've got 280mb of free ram and the scanner software shut's itself off! Here's another scanner I can't use and this one's not even broke! Is this AMD crap or is it something else? I can't believe all the bugs this PC has. The old PC was able to run 10 apps and still run a scanner. What is going on here?

[lynchknot]

Ok i just rebooted and started the scanner software and it stayed open for a few seconds then shut itself off. I am starting to hate this computer even though it gets better 3D mark scores, it performs like crap. Apps open slower, lot's of "unresponsive" messages - the P4 is much faster than this in a users respect. I notice it's sluggishness even right after a clean install - and i've already done 2 of them.

[Conan]

Might be because of a buggy motherboard.

[lynchknot]

Because of all the time I spent on this, redoing over and over, I feel like throwing it off the balcony and smashing it to pieces. I literally spent 19hrs without a break day after day trying to put it back to normal - only to have it mess up and start all over again.

[Big Booger]

sounds like the bulk of your issues are USB related? Have you tried updating the motherboard BIOS? I don't suggest you to do it, because if you do it and mess it up, you're off to buy a new MOBO.
:D

What brand motherboard is it? What model?

That AMD PC should smoke that sony you have. I say this lynch, take your PC down to your local comp shop. Have them have a look at it. Let them do a burn in for you. Let them reinstall the OS, and install all of your hardware. They'll charge a nominal fee for this, but then you can have the satisfaction of knowing it works, without the trouble. :D

That or you could sell the motherboard that is in it and get a new one.

Just thought, Best Buy does PC work. take the PC (only the tower) no need for the monitor, and scanner, and let them install it. I am sure they can work it out for you. Especially if you are buying a new scanner from them. I think you can get free service too because its not your fault :D Tell them you think something is wrong with the scanner.

Wait, Hold the mayo,
Seems several users are experiencing this very problem. Is this the 5900 model?


Users having Memory Errors with Scanner (http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:0Acpm9jgOfYJ:computers.cnet.com/hardware/0-2295735-418-20577280.html+microtek+scanner+out+of+memory+error&hl=en&ie=UTF-8)

From that seems, you need to update the scanmaker software that is released on the Microtek website.
:D That may solve this quandry. And stop blaming that PC :D USER ERROR USER ERROR NA NA NA NA

Nanny nanny boo boo :D

LMAO

[FastGame]

You now know why that person sold it :mad:

Have you ever tested the memory ? or the CPU ?

Prime95 (ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/p95v2212.exe) run the torture test for 24hrs and if it won't do it then you have CPU/Ram problems.

Memtest86 ISO (http://www.memtest86.com/memtest86-3.0.iso.zip) unzip & burn to CD, set CD-rom as first boot device in bios and let memtest run a few passes without errors.

If your Overclocking then I'd suggest putting things back to default...ask Phishhead about the sluggish feeling, he tried too run his hardware over the default of 266fsb and @333fsb things were slower ! why ? because his system (Ram) was unstable & making error's !

I think Conan may have hit the nail on the head, that (Bio-Star) MB.........:(

Oh and BB is right...when things are right that AMD should smoke that Sony :)

[lynchknot]

Well, it already smokes the Sony in 3D mark scores.

Yes, it is a Scanmaker 5900 - i'm at the site now getting drivers.

I thought temperature dictated overclocking ability. Right now it's OC-ed to 1878 and the temp is 43c. running for a half hr.

BB, the board is a Biostar M7VIG Pro Via KM266.

I'll try those tests..

Thanks fellas - :)

[lynchknot]

This new scanner driver is just as bad. The splash screen comes up and then it's ready - then it just pops off - unable to scan.

[Big Booger]

Lynch,
If you have a chance, take the tower and the scanner back to Best Buy. They will check it for you for free. Just tell them you are considering the purchase but it won't work :D

I thought the updated drivers would work.
Did you uninstall the current drivers and remove any and all instances of the scanmaker software?

Did you try to add the hardware manually? I don't think you'll have success but it is worth it.

Have you installed any XP updates that deal with USB? If so, try uninstalling them.

Just trying to think of everything I possibly can.

[FastGame]

My microtek 4900 does that using the new drivers so I use the version 5.781 ScanWizard and works. Have you tried the microtek drivers that come with XP ?

And no it's not the temp's that control OC'n, it's whether or not your system can do so without error's......then temp comes into play.

[Big Booger]

take the CPU back to stock clock speeds. It may seem stable, but overclocking can lead to problems.. :P

I doubt you are going to notice any performance increase of less than 100mhz anyway.. though I could be mistaken.

[FastGame]

Originally posted by Big Booger
take the CPU back to stock clock speeds. It may seem stable, but overclocking can lead to problems.. :P

I doubt you are going to notice any performance increase of less than 100mhz anyway.. though I could be mistaken.
No your not mistaken & besides stability is of the most importance !

If I OC the CPU to much thing's seem ok but then I start getting corruption and can't install anything without problems. One way to get an OC'd CPU stable is too raise the Vcore volts & LK can't raise the volts in his MB so why OC ???

[lynchknot]

Going back to standard clock speeds renders this AMD no better than the P4 and this is with the ATI9500!

3D mark 2001 score: 9886

[FastGame]

lynch why are you messing with 3D mark ? don't you have problems you want fixed ? did you test the memory & cpu yet ? does your scanner work yet ? can you use the right contol panel for the Omega drivers ? do you love your PC yet ?

Send that friggin PC to phishhead and I'm sending him a motherboard, he will fix that dam PC then weld the cover shut so you can't get inside...plus he will password protect the software so you can't fiddle with it :)

Oh and we think we got the problem solved...he'll swap that 9500 out for a nice working 8500 that all the drivers work fine ;)

Or get that ASUS from Stripe and I'll send him a Dually for his sever :) corse it'll cost him more getting two CPU & duals need double the ram...lol

Hurry pack it up and send it off.....

BTW I'm not kidding ;)

[phishhead]

like FG said are games working fine...if so dont bother with the scores I mean what does 300-600 point increase or decrease really mean

[Stripe]

Or get that ASUS from Stripe and I'll send him a Dually for his sever corse it'll cost him more getting two CPU & duals need double the ram...lol

Hey, I don't mind forking out cash for more CPU's :D Although with all that someone's uploading right now, I may need a drive sooner than a cpu :D

Has anyone thought about using a different TWAIN driver? I know with my scanner, it won't work on XP so I need a different TWAIN driver in order for it to work properly....otherwise I get misleading errors.

[lynchknot]

Well, it's more like a 1400 point decrease.

I'm trying to burn the mem test but like almost every app I try to run I get "unresponsive" Nero won't work - I try to end now and it won't even leave my desk

[FastGame]

Well how in the heck do you run 3D Mark ?

You have a serious problem, something must be wrong with that ram or setting in your bios or the mb is dying.

You need to think back....when did all this start & what did you change ?

[lynchknot]

I said, "almost"
Now I can't even uninstall the scanner software. I get Access denied.

This all started when I bought this PC. :(

[egghead]

Originally posted by phishhead
like FG said are games working fine...if so dont bother with the scores I mean what does 300-600 point increase or decrease really mean

lol!






j/k

interesting thread.

Lynch,

try the add/aware scan and then do the spybot scan.
goto www.antivirus.com and do the online updated virus scan.

[FastGame]

LK I know you don't want too hear this :( but you need to go into your bios and set everything to default (Load Default Settings & Save) then format C: drive and install XP, SP1 and the video drivers...nothing else !! Then come back here and tell us if everything is still messed up.

See you in about ?...oh lets say 2hrs...is that enough time ?
Originally posted by lynchknot
This all started when I bought this PC. :(
Uhh sorry but the PC worked...started when you switched drives.......

[egghead]

i think it could be a via problem

i am not a fan of via and there chipsets.


here is an interesting read about your scanner
http://groups.google.ca/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=zo2cnS1FuZSzDImjXTWcqA%40giganews.com&rnum=2&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DScanmaker%2B5900%2Berror%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26selm%3Dzo2cnS1FuZSzDImjXTWcqA%2540giganews.com%26rnum%3D2

egghead

here is a collection of km266 errors
http://groups.google.ca/groups?q=KM266+error&btnG=Google+Search&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

[lynchknot]

I never have touched the bios other than settting boot. I don't want to reformat - I'm sick of it - if it dies, it dies and i'm done. Sorry, but i've had it with installing over and over again.
Sure it may run good with nothing installed but do I want a PC that I can't install what I want? This PC is too finicky

[FastGame]

Ok, guess that sums it up :(

[lynchknot]

Seems like installing the scanner software made things worse - now if I can figure out how to remove it!

[phishhead]

format c: /U should uninstall it just fine.

[lynchknot]

I got it. Now nero works. Could it be that the scanner software was screwing everything up? I could not even open Photoshop, but I can now. I have burned the memory test but it appears I burned the bin file to bin - I don't know what i'm doing - but I don't think this is right.

http://www.techstarcomputers.net/~sighost/sigs/burn.png

[Stripe]

Lynchknot...

I hate to say it, but I would recommend a format and reinstall of XP. I know it's something that you dont want to do, but with not knowing what is causing the problem, it would be recommended.

After doing that, then install the applications you NEED (not want, just the programs you need to use). After that, perform an image of the hard drive. Then, after the image, install everything else you want.

As for problems with Nero and other apps, I think we can all help you out and give you tutorials on the programs. They're not that hard once you've gotten the hang of them.

[lynchknot]

I have reformatted 3 times already and I have only the essentials, for me, installed - only 7GB's, I used to have 33GB! Since I uninstalled the scanner software, everything seems to be working for the moment. I will try a different scanner. This scanner does not work even with just the MS drivers.

I might as well wait because i'm going to install Aquaxp Sp1 Mod 50 Meg By Pack - it changes every single cpl, exe, dll, avi(customade), bitmap, dialogs, custom icons - and it looks great! Screenshot: http://www.brookmedia.com/~AquaIRC/screenshots/systempref.png

And it should be uninstallable. If it screws up my system, i'll have to reformat.

Thread is here:
http://www.aqua-soft.org/board/index.php?showtopic=4314&st=0

[egghead]

i like that

i wil lhave to give that a try

always into new things!

[phishhead]

hey lynch why are you worrying how pretty xp looks when under the hood its running like a pinto:D

[lynchknot]

who's worrying? Harleys look good but they don't run all that great. Most of what I do on PC is artistically related. :D I like purdy things....

[lynchknot]

Fastgame, I don't know how to burn that memory check thing but I did run Aida32 memory benchmark - and both the memory read and write are very low on the totem pole - so ?

Sandra:

SiSoftware Sandra

Int Buff aEMMX/aSSE (Integer STREAM) Results Breakdown
Assignment : 1947MB/s
Scaling : 1932MB/s
Addition : 1885MB/s
Triad : 1879MB/s
Data Item Size : 8-bytes
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement Used : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 85% (estimated)

Float Buff aEMMX/aSSE (Float STREAM) Results Breakdown
Assignment : 1938MB/s
Scaling : 1814MB/s
Addition : 1698MB/s
Triad : 1698MB/s
Data Item Size : 8-bytes
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement Used : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 80% (estimated)

Test Status
Memory Used by Test : 256MB
NUMA Support : No
SMP Test : No
Total Test Threads : 1
SMT Test : No
Dynamic MP/MT Load Balance : No
Processor Affinity : No

Chipset 1
Model : VIA Technologies Inc VT8375 ProSavageDDR PM266/KM266 CPU to PCI Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 140MHz (280MHz data rate)
Width : 64-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 2240MB/s (estimated)

SiSoftware Sandra

Float iSSE Cache/Memory Results Breakdown
2kB Blocks : 14276MB/s
4kB Blocks : 15102MB/s
8kB Blocks : 15504MB/s
16kB Blocks : 12995MB/s
32kB Blocks : 10857MB/s
64kB Blocks : 10117MB/s
128kB Blocks : 6532MB/s
256kB Blocks : 5373MB/s
512kB Blocks : 867MB/s
1MB Blocks : 801MB/s
4MB Blocks : 807MB/s
16MB Blocks : 804MB/s
64MB Blocks : 808MB/s
256MB Blocks : 800MB/s
Data Item Size : 16-bytes
Buffering Used : No
Offset Displacement Used : Yes

Test Status
NUMA Support : No
SMP Test : No
Total Test Threads : 1
SMT Test : No
Dynamic MP/MT Load Balance : No
Processor Affinity : No

Processor
Model : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100+
Speed : 1.75GHz
Model Number : 2100 (estimated)
Performance Rating : PR2538 (estimated)
Type : Standard
Internal Data Cache : 64kB Synchronous Write-Back
L2 On-board Cache : 256kB ECC Synchronous Write-Back

Sorry for the long post

[Big Booger]

lynch,
You need a mac. :D Other than gaming, Mac should be your system. Why make windows look like a Mac? Nothing like a big Mac attack.

LOL

Really though,
Just think you are becoming a skilled reformatter. Experience that you can put to good use some day :D

just farting on you.

I think you need to take the tower and scanner to Best Buy and let them install it. I am fairly sure they won't charge you as you got the scanner from them. :D

I agree with FG, go into the BIOS and load the defaults. It could be that the previous owner screwed with the settings. After you get everything working then you can go in and overclock and tweak. Right now you are just trying to get the PC to function at 100% capacity.

If I remember correctly, you had installed a USB 2.0 driver update. Have you tried uninstalling it?

I know it is a pain, but if you really are dissatisfied with the PC, contact the seller and see what you can work out. If he is reputable, he'll work out an arrangement of some sorts.

And he gets a 16bit error when trying to run the Via 4in1 driver updates. I tried every driver from via, but he kept getting the error. Even when I manually extracted them and tried to install them.


I also know most of this is not your fault. That PC could be problematic, and could be why the seller was selling it.

Have you given thought to getting a replacement motherboard and selling the current BIOSTAR?

[lynchknot]

This is a 50 dollar board I doubt I could get much of anything for it.

I do not like macs - I only certain parts of the gui. The icons sure look a hell of alot better than yellow folders.

[FastGame]

LK I found that XP patch for slow running programs so you don't need to call M$ to get it :)
Slow XP patch (http://www.nvplanet.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1091)

[Big Booger]

you know you want a mac. YOu like style that is what Mac is about. You like to skin, and work with graphics, that is what mac is for. You're a Macer at heart :D

Just spankin your pud. I think that patch FG posted will help you out.

You might get 10-20 bucks for that motherboard. Apply that to a new Asus or Abit.

[lynchknot]

Originally posted by FastGame
LK I found that XP patch for slow running programs so you don't need to call M$ to get it :)
Slow XP patch (http://www.nvplanet.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1091)

opps - :(

http://pcworld.shopping.yahoo.com/yahoo/article/0,aid,111177,00.asp

[Big Booger]

Why not uninstall SP1, and install only the critical updates, minus SP1?

[lynchknot]

My pc has been running good at this point. Been starting fast and reboots faster than ever - used to take 3 times as long to boot or shut down. Only problem is I can't play LFS - game freezes up - other games ok. I re-downloaded game but still no. No OC either.

[Dehcbad25]

Lynch, it seems that have similar problems to the problems I had at the office (and still have) little by little, program by program the PC stop working. Well, it was the OS. Something was bad on it. I just bought another drive, and install the OS in the drive, so I have a dual boot WIN XP machine :P, the previous installation I haven't been able to fix it yet. Actually I tried even re-installing over, and it always finds a problem and cancel installation.
This is what you need to do when you feel you will throw the PC out the window.
1) Take a deep breath
2)look for a box
3)look for packaging stuff
4) wrap the PC in the box, using packaging stuff, then close it
5) drive to the nearest USPS and sent it to me
6) Thanks for the new PC ;)
7) buy same PC from ebay :p
Just Kidding (I never sold a PC in eBay, actually I had never sell a PC)
I don't think it is an AMD specific problem. If the computer keeps freezing, then it could be a CPU problem (it usually is not) but this can happen with Intel too.
I had a problem with a program once that kept saying it was low on resources. One of them needed a reboot. The other one the program was simply bad.
If you have a lot of problem with the programs it might very well be the OS. Run a RAM tester. FG gave you some.
Then run HDD regenerator. IT is a long shot, but I found a problem in a drive with that program
You can always run Scan Disk too. Don't desperate. A computer that works bad is the perfect training to be a power user :D