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Big Booger
May 2nd, 2004, 16:03 PM
Have you thought about death? Do you think about it? If so, post your thoughts in this thread.

We all are going to have to confront death eventually. What's your take on it? How do you see yourself in the light of death's site? Are you spiritual? If so, has that helped you to cope with death?

Just wondering if any of you think about it. I do nearly every day. Don't get me wrong I am not some morbid freak. It just creeps into my head. See it on the news, read it here. Hear about someone dying..

lynchknot
May 2nd, 2004, 17:35 PM
In Memory Of Me - http://community-2.webtv.net/Lynchcynch/LYNCHKNOT/page6.html

I'm curious about reincarnation. There was a news show topic on the subject. A 21-year-old Navy fighter pilot on a mission over the Pacific was shot down by Japanese artillery. His name might have been forgotten, were it not for 6-year-old James Leininger. At the age of 3 he was doing what appeared to be pre-flight checks. Another time his mother bought him a toy plane, and pointed out what appeared to be a bomb on its underside. She says James corrected her, and told her it was a drop tank. "I'd never heard of a drop tank," she said. "I didn't know what a drop tank was."

More: http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/primetime/us/reincarnation_040415.html

FastGame
May 2nd, 2004, 18:41 PM
A long time ago in the 70's I did a couple of hits of Orange Sunshine LSD and man I had a nice trip. I was tripping away having all kinds of fun with my buddies, I'll never forget that trip ;) Anyway when I was coming down from my trip I could feel my arms hurting and I said what the heck is going on...then I saw my whole family standing over me and it freaked me out because I thought I was in the desert partying away, I couldn't figure out how they got there.

Yep I was having a nice trip all right, turns out I was in the hospital in a coma. I had been in that coma for two weeks!!! HOLY COW! seemed like a normal 8-12 hr LSD trip turned into two weeks....I would of never known if I died, I never even knew I was in a coma, everything seemed normal (LSD normal) to me. I still to this day remember most of the trip, yet I've never known anything about how I ended up in the hospital.

The only thing that scares me about death is the route to death. I think it would be terrible to have a sickness or pain & suffering before death, its life I'm scared of. What will my route to death be ? what quality of life of life will I experience before I meet death ?

Death its self isn't scary, its a finality you'll never know happened when its your turn. Your death or mine is only something that the loved one's we leave behind experience.

I don't know how I'll die, but I do know I have some control the route to my death will take. The quality of life preceding my death won't be squandered, sickness and the pain & suffering it brings has no place in my life. I'll never let that happen, I'll relive the 70's, Dr. Kevorkian will be my DJ and Jimmi's Purple Haze will be the last dance of the night ;)

lynchknot
May 2nd, 2004, 18:50 PM
They had a term for your condition in the 70's - 80's. They called it, "lightweight" - :p


hehe, sorry FG - I'm glad you made it back and that you are here. The world would not be the same without your presence.


Yeah, I attended "high" school in the mid/late 70's in Southern California - everything was cool back then. I even went to class, laughing my ass off.


Hey Conan slow down, OMG egghead's on my tail & BB is coming up fast - looks like you need to get off the brakes and stop throwing out your contraband to reduce weight, it's not going to make you any faster - :p

petard
May 3rd, 2004, 00:33 AM
Death. It's the next to last thing to happen to you.

Tinker
May 3rd, 2004, 00:42 AM
To think about death is like wondering how it would be to be alive. Death is something that will happen to us all at some unknown time and place. No one knows what death looks like, smells like, etc.. If the truth were know one only wants to die when life is not good for them anymore. I think death will be a reflection of the life that you have while on this earth. We all have to live with the deeds done in our past. Death will be a time of pondering what was done right or wrong. Your time as a non-breathing spirit will allow you to make corrections in you way of thinking.

As your time to renter the flesh and bone comes near you will fell the excitement of a little child at Christmas time. The only thing is you will enter not knowing of your past. Ever wonder what dejavo is about?

:eek:

SupaStar
May 3rd, 2004, 03:13 AM
Well said Tinker. I whole-heartedly agree.

wumply
May 4th, 2004, 05:38 AM
BB:

Hope you can leave this posted for 4-5 days anyway. I have some very definite things I would like to say on this topic, but won't be able to post them before then.

wumply

SupaStar
May 4th, 2004, 07:23 AM
BB:

Hope you can leave this posted for 4-5 days anyway. I have some very definite things I would like to say on this topic, but won't be able to post them before then.

wumply

Wumply, the thread will always be here, you just have to bookmark http://www.techzonez.com/forums/showthread.php?p=58330 to reach it :)

wumply
May 5th, 2004, 01:08 AM
Thanks for that tip, Supastar!

Dehcbad25
May 5th, 2004, 03:32 AM
Death is what comes after life. That is for the person that dies. For the rest is the memory of the person that is no more with us.
I would like to be remembered as a good friend, and that are my funeral actually people are Laughing and drinking. Celebrating. Because I might be with them anymore, but I don't want to make them sad. I don't want a funeral reception. No need for people to see me in the coffin. I prefer them remembering me, as if I was there, and not the last image as me immobile. That is not me, I can barely sit in front of the computer for more than 30 seconds without changing positions

wumply
May 5th, 2004, 16:51 PM
Tinker's concept of death was beautifully phrased by someone (I don't know who) who wrote: "Death is an appointment we must all keep and for which no time is set."

Before I express my own thoughts about death, let me note that I tend very strongly to believe that reincarnation is at least an option. I base this very much on two books by Ian Stevenson, a professor (he may be retired now) at the University of Virginia. They are called Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation and Children Who Remember Previous Lives. In the latter the children spontaneously recall having lived an earlier life; many, many of the details they recall have been verified because these children returned to earth quite quickly. This permitted Dr.Stevenson to go to their town and place of residence, talk to the claimed parents and verify many facts the children remembered. I tend to credit all this because Dr. Stevenson was clearly a very careful investigator and yet will not unequivocally state that he has proved reincarnation. Also creditable is the fact that the remembrances of very young children are spontaneous---usually before 8-9 years of age. (After 8-9 almost all tend to forget their memories.)

wumply

That said, I am reluctant to leave this earth and I will feel a great sadness at having to leave its manifold beauty and feel much pain over knowing I will not see my sons and grandchildren again. Dying, if I am conscious, won't be easy and I hope I get to say 'goodbye" and that I go quickly without pain, preferably in my sleep. I am aware I have "more years behind me than ahead of me"...I am 73. I don't think about dying much (I'm lucky to be in good health) but I am conscious of my body slowly wearing out. I guess I don't think about it much because I can't do much about it. All my affairs are in order and I've arranged for cremation as it is simple, inexpensive and does not use up cemetery space. I'm sentimental enough to want my ashes to be scattered in the New Hampshire countryside where I grew up. I'm not religious; I don't know there is a god but I find it hard to explain my existence and the world's unless I postulate a super being. Life has had a great deal of pain but also times of intense joy.

wumply

rik
May 5th, 2004, 17:36 PM
Well wumply hopefully you have many more years to hang out with us...regardless we'll see you again once the server is rebooted.

lynchknot
May 5th, 2004, 17:36 PM
Have you guys heard of Edgar Cayce? - http://www.edgarcayce.org/search.html

His "readings" were well documented and has never been refuted, from what I have read.

wumply
May 5th, 2004, 17:55 PM
They always struck me as somewhat vague...generalized and unfortunately there is, I believe, no direct evidence of his words...though I may be incorrect here

lynchknot
May 5th, 2004, 18:05 PM
The whole subject is vague, as we will never really know until we get there. :)

Big Booger
May 6th, 2004, 00:37 AM
I sometimes think that when you die it is like turning off the light, or the draining of a non-rechargable battery. Last night before I went to sleep I thought on this quite a bit. I usually think about death at night when everyone is asleep and I can hear my own heart beating. I wonder if it will be like a dream that I just never wake up from. Like when you doze off into a deep sleep, you can feel yourself going off.. I hope it is like that, but who knows.

I dread most if the death process is painful. That is what I am worried about. I think the most unfortunate situation is to die a slow and very painful death. I think in those situation without hope of recovery we should have the right to end it. Why preserve pain for people?

Well that's all I can write for now, as I am at work. But I will get back to this topic and give a few more insights that I have about it.

Dehcbad25
May 7th, 2004, 00:48 AM
Well, BB you bring an interesting point. Is out there a poll (or something like that) describing how are deaths? Slow and painfull 70% :P
Anyhow, I had only 3 people close to me die so far. The 3 were sick, one ever since he was borned, but none of the 3 had a painfull dead. Actually the most recen one (Myt best friend's father) he had cancer, and the last 3 days he was feeling great.
I think we associate dead with slow and painfull because it is something we want to avoid
"Death is an appointment we must all keep and for which no time is set." Well, Since I am late for everything I won't make it an exception :p
BB, remember that when you lie at night, and everyone is sleep, actually there are a bunch of us in this side of the heart that are working and runing around ;)
A final thought, Dead must not be that bad. There are few the stories of people coming back. How many come back, from how many go? :D

Big Booger
February 20th, 2006, 07:46 AM
Well again I had another flash of the death-thought. I liken death to sleep. I can never remember when the exact moment I fall asleep. I can remember eyes getting heavy, dreams, and so on.. but the exact moment I nod off and enter sleep I cannot remember.

I told my wife last night that this must be what death is like. But then I wondered why do we have a consciousness if when we die it is gone.. what is the purpose of that consciousness if after you die it is deleted. It doesn't seem logical. Why are we not like fish and just live day to day without knowing about life or death but just living like a blank slate without memory or consciousness.

I fear the unknown, not death. I know we all must cash in our mortal chips eventually, but the process of death is really spooky. I want to read up on near death experiences. I think that might possibly be the closest we can ever come to actually knowing what death is like.

PIPER
February 20th, 2006, 08:32 AM
I don't know how I'll die, but I do know I have some control the route to my death will take. The quality of life preceding my death won't be squandered, sickness and the pain & suffering it brings has no place in my life. I'll never let that happen, I'll relive the 70's, Dr. Kevorkian will be my DJ and Jimmi's Purple Haze will be the last dance of the night ;)

I'm with you FG....The medical profession will try to keep u alive as long as possible...for what...if your terminal...let it go...quality vs. quantity man...we all start the process of dying the day that we are born...how we are going to go is the question...unless we do something out of the ordinary..lol...when it is time to go, we go...

So live every day as if it is your last...and remember, above all...the one who dies with the most toys.....WINS!!!!!.....:D

jan
February 20th, 2006, 14:25 PM
I guess my view is way diff than most peeps. Im a christian. Not much of one, nevertheless I am. I believe that I'll spend eternity with no more pain or sorrow and with eternal bliss. I dont care for this world. Mankind (this includes women guys) is so vain and corrupt and is only going to get worse. I will not be like Lot's wife in the bible (when she looked back and turned into a pillar of salt). I will not be looking over my shoulder when I leave this old world. When the time has come, Im ready to roll. :cool:

Dehcbad25
February 20th, 2006, 15:40 PM
Life is not a destination, is a .......(what the heck was the said) well...it is like a road or something. So, death is not that important, what is important was that fancy sport car that you were driving before it :p
(now, seriously, think about it, you know someone crashed a McLaren F1, but not who the heck he was :p)
I am a Christian too, but, I am a new breed (that is what I call myself)
I like to believe that we have to do all we can to improve ourselves and our quality, and for me that is God's true freedom of choice. There is no destiny, no help. Just be the best that you can be up to your moral, enjoy this life withoth hurting others, then think about heaven or hell.
Anyhow, answering BB's post, if your concioness fades away after death, then don't worry, you won't feel a thing :p
I know I said this as a joke, but the point was that we worry before it happens, and not after. There are many things that are unknown, and we don't realize. How could you explain a kid how to walk? Do you know why you walk? And not the medical or biological explanation. So, if I were a baby, that would be unknown to me. Then one day I am walking and I don't worry any more. Think about before birth too. I guess it is similar feeling, just that we have no memory worrying about it. You are in this place that you have to know since you were alive (mom's tummy) and you grew there. Then little by litle you have to go out. WHy?? I wouldn't want to, but you still have to. Then you are born into this world. Now you worry about the next step.

FastGame
February 20th, 2006, 17:23 PM
I guess my view is way diff than most peeps. Im a christian. Not much of one, nevertheless I am. I believe that I'll spend eternity with no more pain or sorrow and with eternal bliss. I dont care for this world. Mankind (this includes women guys) is so vain and corrupt and is only going to get worse.
You need to care about this world, without the experience of vanity, corruption, misery, how will you distinguish "eternal bliss" ?

For the religious, LIFE is a test, a learning. For the non-religious, LIFE is happenstance.

For the religious, DEATH is a crossing where all thats been, all thats learned is sorted in order for direction. The road to "eternal bliss" or eternal damnation.

For the non-religious, Death is absolute, final, its brings to end all hope. For the non-religious, deaths "eternal bliss" would be a statue of their likeness in the city park, eternity on earth......

jan
February 20th, 2006, 18:07 PM
I suppose it might be easy to miss my point. I should add that I think that all we behold.. all creation including terrestrial, the celestrial and the human and animal life is an absolutely amazing and wonderful thing in its simplicity and complexness together. And I acknowlegde that many peep do wonderful acts all of the time. My dislike is certainly not for any of that.

z3n
February 20th, 2006, 23:10 PM
At the age of 16 I was in a horrific head on car accident in which I was thrown through the windscreen of a card.
I was so badly injured the other occupants thought I was dead and it wasn’t until another motorist stopped and checked my faint pulse they he determined I was still alive.

I was rushed to a rural hospital, stabilised, then flown to a city hospital.

I died three times on the table in the country hospital (The doctor told me if I had died a fourth time, they would have let me go on the principal my brain would have been chronically starved of oxygen due to the long period I had been gone.)

Death - I’ve been there, and got the t-shirt, well... medical papers actually, when I regained full consciousness I asked the doctor about the drugs I had been given and described the experience in the country hospital.

He told me they had not given me any drugs prior to the emergency helicopter flight for fear up making me unstable in flight.
The doctor was very intrigued about my hallucinations and story, he waited for me to fully complete my memories then calmly explained I had experienced a near death experience.

He also explained I had been dead longer than anyone he had ever witnessed.

Although I was young at the time, my life took a distinct flip.

I felt that at any point my life would end and I had to make the most of every second.
Twenty odd years later I have since calmed down, but understand the importance of gift we have all been given.
Yes I had visions, but I'm honestly not comfortable talking about it, so please don't ask.

When anyone talks about death I feel like I’m watching a travel show on T.V. and I say “I’ve been there!” and people say “What’s it like?”

My reply: “Great place to visit but I wouldn’t want to live there.”

:)

wumply
February 20th, 2006, 23:18 PM
Thanks for sharing that experience!

d000hg
February 21st, 2006, 07:13 AM
As a Chistian I'm sure that death is where my life really starts to get good! I don't believe death is something that scares me; however a painful or drawn out death is.

Jan, either you've not explained yourself well or your definition of 'new breed Christianity' is based around being nice to people? How does that have anything to do with Jesus rather than acting in a 'Christian' way? Apologies for sounding rude but to me, if someone's personal definition of Christianity doesn't agree with the teachings of Jesus (and Paul) then they are incorrect... I'd be interested to hear a deeper explanation of your philosophy.

jan
February 23rd, 2006, 01:25 AM
d000hg said:
As a Chistian I'm sure that death is where my life really starts to get good! I don't believe death is something that scares me; however a painful or drawn out death is.
Thats about the way I see it too.
your definition of 'new breed Christianity'
Newbreed? What? Maybe you read somebody else reply and confused it with mine?

Big Booger
February 23rd, 2006, 08:29 AM
I read in Discover magazine that humans might have all evolved from viruses... that's to say our "God" is ebola or HIV related. I wonder if it is true. They sure made a sound argument.

And I am still puzzled about the consciousness issue. We all have a conscious, but yet if we die (and you don't believe in religion) what happens to it? Does it just disappear? Is our "spirit" transported somewhere? Absorbed somewhere? Do we get a new chance at a different form of life?

I wonder...

I do think that the primary focus of religion is to settle the nerves and make you comfortable with dying. I mean if it didn't there would be no purpose for heaven.

zipp51
February 23rd, 2006, 15:38 PM
I'm keeping it simple,but there is already a plan out there,and all we have to do is do the footwork.For me it is trying to do the right thing everyday and in all my affairs.I've chosen good instead of evil and have committed to recognizing if I am straying from that path.And death,yes it will come as surely as my tax bills do.It's about living for me,but don't get me wrong,I am human and I get scared of death for a time,but I tell myself that god is in charge of death and that takes my burden off my shoulders for that moment.I striveto be spiritual everyday and that is my journey.All of the posts about this subject are part of the seeking that is of a spiritual nature that, from what I see has taken all of us a little further on our journeys.This is my daily meditation for today;A man who studies revenge keeps his own wounds green."Francis Bacon"There is more to read about revenge,then a prayer to keep me from a desire to do that.I have a new one each day.:D

Curio
February 24th, 2006, 19:34 PM
Don't even think about it - why would you?

jugador
March 25th, 2006, 12:47 PM
Tinker's concept of death was beautifully phrased by someone (I don't know who) who wrote: "Death is an appointment we must all keep and for which no time is set."

Before I express my own thoughts about death, let me note that I tend very strongly to believe that reincarnation is at least an option. I base this very much on two books by Ian Stevenson, a professor (he may be retired now) at the University of Virginia. They are called Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation and Children Who Remember Previous Lives. In the latter the children spontaneously recall having lived an earlier life; many, many of the details they recall have been verified because these children returned to earth quite quickly. This permitted Dr.Stevenson to go to their town and place of residence, talk to the claimed parents and verify many facts the children remembered. I tend to credit all this because Dr. Stevenson was clearly a very careful investigator and yet will not unequivocally state that he has proved reincarnation. Also creditable is the fact that the remembrances of very young children are spontaneous---usually before 8-9 years of age. (After 8-9 almost all tend to forget their memories.)

wumply

That said, I am reluctant to leave this earth and I will feel a great sadness at having to leave its manifold beauty and feel much pain over knowing I will not see my sons and grandchildren again. Dying, if I am conscious, won't be easy and I hope I get to say 'goodbye" and that I go quickly without pain, preferably in my sleep. I am aware I have "more years behind me than ahead of me"...I am 73. I don't think about dying much (I'm lucky to be in good health) but I am conscious of my body slowly wearing out. I guess I don't think about it much because I can't do much about it. All my affairs are in order and I've arranged for cremation as it is simple, inexpensive and does not use up cemetery space. I'm sentimental enough to want my ashes to be scattered in the New Hampshire countryside where I grew up. I'm not religious; I don't know there is a god but I find it hard to explain my existence and the world's unless I postulate a super being. Life has had a great deal of pain but also times of intense joy.

wumply
Looks like I'm in the same boat as you wumphy. I'm in pretty good shape myself minus the trip bypass and Anuerism. I've believed in reincarnation for a long time. Also the Karma of life. To balance it out one must return to try to do better the next time. I also hope that I go quickly. I was raised in MA so am familiar with NH. Been to Ringe many times=Cathedral of the Pines. Lots of travel in my life ,Navy,Mexico,Hawaii,Alaska and most of the US. Met lots of really great people and never regretted a bit of it. I'm planning on creamation also. Trying to find out if cremation on one's property is legal here in MN. I also believe that God,Buddha,Great Spirit are all the same as there has to be a reason for existence. A famous artist said "Quote" Where do I come from? Why am I here? Where am I going? Maybe I'll see you "Upstairs".Have a good day,Fred:)

Dehcbad25
March 27th, 2006, 17:08 PM
I like Z3n reply
“Great place to visit but I wouldn’t want to live there.”
I think that what comes after death will come whatever it is, so for now we have life, and we should do someting productive about it. In life, one is but a reflection in sociaty. What I mean is, "Is there a reason to life itself if there is no interaction with other people?" Certainly one would go kind of nuts, or you need to be nuts :p
Take the forum for example, we do social interaction a lot, and each one of us will be remembered by the other. This is a proof of existance. Other people you don't know wouldn't really affect your view of existance. Sounds weird right? We do have friends, we get married (and divorce, and so on) have kids, and we are always survived by other people. So, I think we should leave a good memory to other people. That is one of my goals in life. Why do I keep trying to improve myself? well, I want to have kids, and I want them to think I am a good father (and my wife to think I am the BEST HUSBAND in the world ;)) So, I also chose to live moraly. I am half of a tree huger. I recicle, I try not to do anything bad (but I guess I am still a sinner in religious terms)
Maybe to be remembered more, someday I will create IPv7, or Cat 8 cable :p but for now I am content to be a good person for people that is around me. After I die, I will have to re-evaluate my goals and adapt them to the circunstances (if I can still think :p)

wumply
March 27th, 2006, 17:41 PM
It has been really fascinating to read different reactions to this question. I'd enjoy meeting some of you based on what you wrote.

I often hope I'll have a chance a another life on this earth...in another body I should imagine...if that should be possible. I'd love to be around to see what fascinating changes there'll have been though I don't suppose I'll remember this life to compare it to. And I certainly hope I don't end up in a hell of a life in a 3rd world country but I suppose that risk would be there. From 2 books I've read, I feel the evidence...valid evidence...for coming back in another body is definitely possible. (Yes I know...evidence is not proof...but evidence can be very, very impressive.) I haven't discovered how it would work though.

On a lighter side--Z3n's "Great place to visit but I wouldn’t want to live there" made me think of it...Woody Allen's saying: "I'm not afraid of death...I just don't like the hours."

jugador
March 28th, 2006, 03:01 AM
To think about death is like wondering how it would be to be alive. Death is something that will happen to us all at some unknown time and place. No one knows what death looks like, smells like, etc.. If the truth were know one only wants to die when life is not good for them anymore. I think death will be a reflection of the life that you have while on this earth. We all have to live with the deeds done in our past. Death will be a time of pondering what was done right or wrong. Your time as a non-breathing spirit will allow you to make corrections in you way of thinking.

As your time to renter the flesh and bone comes near you will fell the excitement of a little child at Christmas time. The only thing is you will enter not knowing of your past. Ever wonder what dejavo is about?

:eek:
Hi Tinker,What is that dejavo that you mentioned? Similiar to Deja Vu? Jugador

jugador
March 28th, 2006, 03:17 AM
Have you guys heard of Edgar Cayce? - http://www.edgarcayce.org/search.html

His "readings" were well documented and has never been refuted, from what I have read.
I read all of Cayces books back in the 60's. He surely had a connection to something. Besides his curing abilities and invention info the main thing would be the healing that he accomplished and that he did it for free. The foundation is still there plus website. I tried to get some info on the Multiple Wave Oscillator that they were doing research on but they wouldn't release the info to me. This was at their Arizona facility. Still searching,:) J

GimieGimieGimie
March 28th, 2006, 13:30 PM
Just to post my 2 cents on the quicky (if i get time, i'll post all my thoughts on death on a later date) but may i just say that death (the unknown) scares the hell out of me!

I never want to die, i believe we should have the choice of when we leave this existence, and who knows, if you reach a level of intelligence maybe this might just be an option because afterall, we wouldn't want the worst scum of this world to live forever would we?

I'm a man of science and emotion, i'm also one of the most unreligious people you could ever meet, i use to believe in heaven and god (secretly, i was never taught to believe this) but over the years life experiences has proven otherwise to me, my best theory at the moment is that we simply cease to exist, which pains me to say let alone believe, i never thought i'd see myself believing this and i certainly hope i'm wrong!

My only hope is that with every inch of my soul (and indeed countless others) i want that theory to be wrong, since this want/need is beyond my control and cannot be tainted by human kind, then surely it must hold some significant weight and purpose?

On the flip side of the coin, a few years back i thought about death when my dad died, i realised that by the time i have reached old age (the age of a hopefully natual death), everyone in my immediate family (ones i grew up with and ones i would be the most closest too, next to my own created family) would of died long before me and i would be the only one left, even though i'm scared of death, i feel that as life goes on and more and more people i love leave this world, i will slowly wish to join them or at least, have more and more to look forward to as i face death (if an afterlife really does exist).

But even then, i can't imagine ever wanting to leave my future family alone either, so it's a big confliction, i guess as long as i have someone to care about, i will never want to leave this world, no matter how badly it treats me.

The only thing i do know is that i certainly want to see my dad again one day and if death is the only way to do it, then i'll happily do it, when i feel the time is right (haha like i have a choice right now!) ;).

I'm quite young, just turned 21 the other day so i have a whole life time to worry about death, but i am hoping a hint of an afterlife will have proven its self to me during the course of my life time and then i won't need to ;)

Kane
March 28th, 2006, 14:23 PM
Don't even think about it - why would you?

nice avatar Curio!

tarun
March 28th, 2006, 15:43 PM
God, Suicide and the Meaning of Life (http://metaphilm.com/philm.php?id=338_0_2_0_M). (Woody Allen's existentialist leanings).

jugador
March 28th, 2006, 20:01 PM
Just to post my 2 cents on the quicky (if i get time, i'll post all my thoughts on death on a later date) but may i just say that death (the unknown) scares the hell out of me!

I never want to die, i believe we should have the choice of when we leave this existence, and who knows, if you reach a level of intelligence maybe this might just be an option because afterall, we wouldn't want the worst scum of this world to live forever would we?

I'm a man of science and emotion, i'm also one of the most unreligious people you could ever meet, i use to believe in heaven and god (secretly, i was never taught to believe this) but over the years life experiences has proven otherwise to me, my best theory at the moment is that we simply cease to exist, which pains me to say let alone believe, i never thought i'd see myself believing this and i certainly hope i'm wrong!

My only hope is that with every inch of my soul (and indeed countless others) i want that theory to be wrong, since this want/need is beyond my control and cannot be tainted by human kind, then surely it must hold some significant weight and purpose?

On the flip side of the coin, a few years back i thought about death when my dad died, i realised that by the time i have reached old age (the age of a hopefully natual death), everyone in my immediate family (ones i grew up with and ones i would be the most closest too, next to my own created family) would of died long before me and i would be the only one left, even though i'm scared of death, i feel that as life goes on and more and more people i love leave this world, i will slowly wish to join them or at least, have more and more to look forward to as i face death (if an afterlife really does exist).

But even then, i can't imagine ever wanting to leave my future family alone either, so it's a big confliction, i guess as long as i have someone to care about, i will never want to leave this world, no matter how badly it treats me.

The only thing i do know is that i certainly want to see my dad again one day and if death is the only way to do it, then i'll happily do it, when i feel the time is right (haha like i have a choice right now!) ;).

I'm quite young, just turned 21 the other day so i have a whole life time to worry about death, but i am hoping a hint of an afterlife will have proven its self to me during the course of my life time and then i won't need to ;)
Well,That's the thing,when you're young you,really don't think about it that much. When you get up in the 60's you probably will. No sense in worrying about it as it will come. Most importantly is to make every day a good day. Quote by Don Alvarez="Give me a glass of wine,music and a good dog and I'll be happy" Nuf said.

z3n
March 28th, 2006, 22:09 PM
My favourite quote regarding death, (and forgive me for not remembering who said it)

"I'm not afraid of dying, I just don't want to be there when it happens."

:)

Reverend
March 28th, 2006, 22:12 PM
My favourite quote regarding death, (and forgive me for not remembering who said it)

"I'm not afraid of dying, I just don't want to be there when it happens."

:)Woody Allen & Spike Milligan

rohitk89
March 29th, 2006, 05:40 AM
nice avatar Curio!LOL!

bhxtyrant
March 29th, 2006, 06:12 AM
To me this is a very hard topic to deal with.I am only 23 at the moment but right now in life time seems to fly along.It seems like only yesterday i was 18 graduating high school.I find that at times in this point in my life i do think about death at times over the fact that time seems to pass so quickly but i try to live each day the best i can.I am not really spiritual as im the type that has to see something to believe it.There are so many questions reguarding our existance on this earth that will probally never be known that i wish for one second i could know.In the end im not really afraid of death,more so of missing out on things while i am still here.But as long as i am here i plan to enjoy it!

sillybilly
March 29th, 2006, 19:31 PM
My sister died of cancer last week. She was an incredible woman and only 35 years old. She was a christian and so is most of the family. It was really interesting observing the family and their different beliefs during the process. It was a real peaceful time and all the christians including myself were comforted in knowing that we'll see her again and there was without question a real peace in the house. Those who aren't christian really struggled with her death and morned deeply. I think christianity has a really bad name in society... and understandly as there are a lot of christians who have damaged this belief. But during this time I experience God like never before and supporting me in a time where I lost my sister who I loved dearly. I look forward to seeing her again in heaven.
I have often questioned christianity but after this time... and no, not because I want to see my sister again, I stand by my belief that there is a God. There is no way I could of got through this time without.

GimieGimieGimie
March 30th, 2006, 12:37 PM
LOL!

Ditto LOL! :D

Dehcbad25
April 2nd, 2006, 21:30 PM
SillyBilly made me realize of an interesting point. Your religious belief help define your view about death, and as he pointed out, he can feel more relaxed knowing he can meet his sister again some day. This thought also brings another thing that I thought some time ago, when a friend of mine lost a very dear person to her. Death happens and it is something we can't avoid. Each one choses a different way to aproach it, but it will come to us all. Now, there is something that should always be constant, as a I said in my previous post, living is the present, and how we reflect into other people, and regardless of religion belief, death should not be over mourn. Some concern and sadness I think is human, but as I told my best friend when his father died (and they were very close) "your father always tried his best for you to be happy, so now you should return the favor and try your best to be happy for his sake"
So, my point, regardless of if you believe in something after death or not, you should make the best of this life.
Now, I was wondering if it would be ok with Forums regulation to make a thread like "What do you think bout God?" Now, I realize that is a touchy subject, but I think we can manage to express opinions that are constructive. I consider myself to have a very weird "special" view of religion, but since I don't know much about it, I am always interested on what many people believe, or think better said. I have travel a bit and meet interesting people, I am still interested. So, Rev, would it be OK?

GimieGimieGimie
April 2nd, 2006, 21:36 PM
Now, I was wondering if it would be ok with Forums regulation to make a thread like "What do you think bout God?" Now, I realize that is a touchy subject, but I think we can manage to express opinions that are constructive. I consider myself to have a very weird "special" view of religion, but since I don't know much about it, I am always interested on what many people believe, or think better said. I have travel a bit and meet interesting people, I am still interested. So, Rev, would it be OK?

So controversial, i love it!

I'd certainly love to add my views on the creator and they are all definitely positive and constructive :)

Reverend
April 2nd, 2006, 21:47 PM
So, Rev, would it be OK?OK with me.

ziggy67
April 10th, 2006, 12:25 PM
Have you thought about death? Do you think about it? If so, post your thoughts in this thread.

We all are going to have to confront death eventually. What's your take on it? How do you see yourself in the light of death's site? Are you spiritual? If so, has that helped you to cope with death?

Just wondering if any of you think about it. I do nearly every day. Don't get me wrong I am not some morbid freak. It just creeps into my head. See it on the news, read it here. Hear about someone dying.. i think if i was going to die i would want to be awake or just falling from a plane so that i could watch it coming any way atleast be awake i mean come on you are only going to see it once and i would like to know how it is going to happin weather there is something els out there or not your truely ziggy67

adeydas
April 10th, 2006, 12:46 PM
I think death is a part of life like any other important event and eventually everyone has to go. So I guess the only thing we can do is deeds which will make us smile in our death beds.

Big Booger
April 11th, 2006, 08:38 AM
http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=495

A related story (well sort of related) it involves decapitation and consciousness. Pretty nasty if you are not in the right frame of mind (scientific) to read it.

Dehcbad25
April 21st, 2006, 00:34 AM
My wife and I were talking about a movie the other day (What dreams May Come) I think I like the idea, that there is something after death, and you still can defy destiny.
So, I still think one should live trying to be happy, and take the most of it Memento Mori, but first Carpe Diem
This brings another interesting point. Robin Williams had a couple of movies about life and death. The Death poets society (that is where I took Carpe Diem) Bicential man, and What Dreams may Come are just 3 I can think of. He Also was in about 40, so it is not big deal :p
I think I am scared of death, but not of my own death (thought I really don't like the idea of dying), but I am more scared of death of a person close to me, dear to me. I am terryfied of a person that I love a lot. Of not have shown how much I care, and I love that person. Of not doing enought for that person to enjoy life. I motivate myself enought to enjoy every minute, and maybe that is why I am not so afraid of my own death. So, thinking on this, I think that I will do my best so people don't miss me in sad ways when I am gone, but remember me with smile in their faces. I want to be remembered as David, He who enjoyed his life as much as he could. :D

GimieGimieGimie
April 21st, 2006, 17:26 PM
My wife and I were talking about a movie the other day (What dreams May Come) I think I like the idea, that there is something after death, and you still can defy destiny.
So, I still think one should live trying to be happy, and take the most of it
This brings another interesting point. Robin Williams had a couple of movies about life and death. The Death poets society (that is where I took Carpe Diem) Bicential man, and What Dreams may Come are just 3 I can think of. He Also was in about 40, so it is not big deal :p
I think I am scared of death, but not of my own death (thought I really don't like the idea of dying), but I am more scared of death of a person close to me, dear to me. I am terryfied of a person that I love a lot. Of not have shown how much I care, and I love that person. Of not doing enought for that person to enjoy life. I motivate myself enought to enjoy every minute, and maybe that is why I am not so afraid of my own death. So, thinking on this, I think that I will do my best so people don't miss me in sad ways when I am gone, but remember me with smile in their faces. I want to be remembered as David, He who enjoyed his life as much as he could. :D

I just have to say; one of the best films i've ever seen and totally underratted!

Robin Williams and everyone in the film gave a fantastic performance and the script writter & director had a wonderful imagination with his/shes views on the afterlife and directed the film flawlessly.

Loved every minute of it, definitely makes you look forward to death :D, i recommend anyone to watch What Dreams May Come.

/Praise over :p