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    Ok, I've given up on searching...

    ...for a camera that store's its data in png. Does anyone know of a camera that takes 2+ MP images, and stores them in any lossless format (tiff, bmp, tga, raw, etc)?

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    Goddammit!

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    sorry most that i've ever come across are jpg.



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    anything in tiff that isn't costly will do too. I don't need a fancy gizmo. I just need something that takes good pictures.

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    why not get a nice 3.5-4 megapixal and convert it to the format you want.



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    all bets are off... TZ Veteran SupaStar's Avatar
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    Even the 5 megapixel digitals have dropped in price! If you take a photo with plenty of light on you subject you shouldn't experience much (if any) graininess or quality loss.

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    Nobody knows I'm a dog. TZ Veteran petard's Avatar
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    PNG format? That's not a popular format for digital camera makers right now. It's pretty much JPEG. Your best bet is to get a decent camera and convert the file afterwards.

    Many thanks to egghead for the cool .sig

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    Quote Originally Posted by petard
    Your best bet is to get a decent camera and convert the file afterwards.
    png has lossless compression, but it takes more processing power. Depending upon the image, sometimes png compression gives a smaller file than even jpg. It's someting like zipping, but better. I have a problem with JPG's screwing up the image. By converting it to png you don't get back the lost data.

    take a look at these two examples. The png is only 15.5 k and the image looks just like I saw it. While the jpg is 86.7 k and the data loss is apparent even at 1 compression level.
    Last edited by Death; August 2nd, 2004 at 03:27 AM.

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    Get a camera that saves in raw or tiff mode. Then convert them to png after downloading them to the PC.

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    Hey, I said
    Quote Originally Posted by Death
    By converting it to png you don't get back the lost data.

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    Ok, sorry, you said raw or tiff... You know of any that DO save the images in any of these lossless formats AND are cheap? As I've said before, i don't need any fancy toy.

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    I don't know what you call cheap. You buy a cheap camera, more than likely you will be disappointed especially if you are worried about image quality.

    I'd personally get a sony. The sony Mavica stores stills in TIFF mode.

    • File Formats: JPEG, GIF, TIFF*, MPEG1

    $299.95 2MP version:
    http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...ctSKU=MVCFD200

    $599.95 5.1MP version:
    http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...ctSKU=MVCCD500

    The 5 megapixel version even saves to CDRW.
    • Recording Media: 3" (8cm) CD-R/RW Optical Disc

    Both are great cameras.

    Below are 11 digital cameras all supporting TIFF mode with varying price and feature ranges:

    http://www.epinions.com/Digital_Came...1_9_Megapixels

    And below are 64 cameras that support raw mode:
    http://www.epinions.com/search/?subm..._submit=Search

    Hope that helps. But the bottom line is you get what you pay for. Buy a cheap camera and you'll not only be disappointed, you will also probably be upgrading sooner which in the long term will cost you more money.




    And if I had to make a camera purchase today I'd definitely go with Nikon:
    http://www.epinions.com/Nikon_Coolpix_5700_Cameras

    A bit pricey, but worth every penny. Every person I know who owns a Nikon has been more than pleased. That Nikon Coolpix 5700 supports both RAW and TIFF modes as well as JPEG.
    Last edited by Big Booger; August 11th, 2004 at 09:12 AM.

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    WOW, Awesome job. This is exactly what I wanted. Thanks man!

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    I have a Nikon CoolPix885. Got it as refurbished. It was quite cheap considering is a heck of a camera. This one can save in tiff too, with a file size of 9 MB exact.
    One of our fellow TZ users game me a couple of links to a digital camera web site, and I pick it thru there (can't remember the web site thoguht)
    I am sure that newer models thought are in the same proce range or even cheaper offering better quality. Get a refurbished. You will save 50%

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    the COOLPIX 885 is pretty good for $200, but I think it'll be great if I can get a refurbished "Sony CD Mavica® Digital Camera MVC-CD500" which BB's mentioned above. Now that really IS good, 156 MB CD's. What more do you need!

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