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    Exclamation Question from a tech challenged user

    Ok, I bought my computer November 03' and I've long suspected that it just wasn't performing up to its potential. Here are the specs

    Operating System System Model
    Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600) americanfuture SK8N To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    System Serial Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    Processor a Main Circuit Board b
    2.20 gigahertz AMD Opteron
    64 kilobyte primary memory cache
    1024 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: ASUSTeK Computer INC. 'SK8N' Rev 1.xx
    Bus Clock: 200 megahertz
    BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. 080009 06/25/2003
    Drives Memory Modules c,d
    122.93 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
    80.03 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

    IDE DVD-ROM 16X [CD-ROM drive]
    WSM-52Z [CD-ROM drive]
    3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]

    IN-WIN iAPP HS-CF USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 1
    IN-WIN iAPP HS-MS USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 2
    IN-WIN iAPP HS-SD/MMC USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 4
    IN-WIN iAPP HS-SM USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 3
    Maxtor 6Y120L0 [Hard drive] (122.94 GB) -- drive 0, s/n Y32XV4FE, rev YAR41BW0, SMART Status: Healthy 1024 Megabytes Installed Memory


    Display NVIDIA GeForce FX 5950 Ultra (Omega P 1.5672a) [Display adapter]
    Delta J996-1 [Monitor] (17.7"vis, August 2003)

    And 1GB of Kingston DDR Registered/Buffered RAM.


    Now, here's the interesting thing i found today...
    Today I downloaded the SISoftware Sandra benchmarking pack and was instructed run the benchmarks.
    These are the ones I ran:
    -CPU ARithmetic Benchmark
    -CPU Multimedia Benchmark
    -Cache and memory benchmark
    All of these three i compared with inferior hardware and my CPU was running significantly slower

    However, next I ran the Memory Bandwith Benchmark and it was astronomimcally higher than the others.

    Is the CPU problem I'm having due to a non 64 bit OS? That's the answer i got from my friend but I thought I'd throw the info up here to get suggestions. I tried installing the trial XP-64 software and it came up with about 40 errors requiring me to do a system restore.

    Anyone seen this kind of thing happen before? I hate having this great system and not being able to work it to the fullest

    Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

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    The Soja, thats a very nice PC you have Why did you feel that it "just wasn't performing up to its potential" before you ran Sandra ? that should be a killer PC.

    Could you post your Sandra results ? some of the systems in Sandra aren't "inferior" so maybe your reading it wrong ??? CPU wise that is...

    64 bit OS shouldn't make a difference and XP 64bit isn't ready for prime time yet.

    Benchmarks are great for seeing where you stand or tweaking your system. The bad thing about benchmarks is they give people a false sense of something is wrong if the scores aren't quite what they expect. Of coarse benchmarks can show you if something is wrong but just because the score is off a bit doesn't mean things are haywire

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    Shouldn't the Opteron be running at 266 or even 333 FSB speed? If the bios is set to 200 FSB it would not perform to potential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by efc
    Shouldn't the Opteron be running at 266 or even 333 FSB speed? If the bios is set to 200 FSB it would not perform to potential.
    Bios settings for AMD
    100=200fsb
    133=266fsb
    166=333fsb
    200=400fsb

    Soja says the CPU is 2.20 gigahertz AMD Opteron and the bios is set @200fsb(x2=400fsb) so I assume the multiplier is 11, 11x200=2.2 GHZ. the reason I assume this is because
    Quote Originally Posted by The Soja
    However, next I ran the Memory Bandwith Benchmark and it was astronomimcally higher than the others.
    If the bios were set to 100fsb=200fsb then the memory scores would be real bad in Sandra.

    Of coarse I could be wrong and Soja was listing only system spec's (CPU) and not real settings, in which case I'd wonder why the memories score were so good That's why I asked for the Sandra posting

    efc it could very well be as you say.....that would be easy to fix
    Last edited by FastGame; November 1st, 2004 at 05:03 AM.

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    Soja, help us by downloading and running Belarc Advisor. It will report processor and motherboard bus clock plus a ton of other information.

    For instance, my xp2400+ reports:
    2.10 gigahertz AMD Athlon XP
    Bus Clock: 138 megahertz, which equals 276 MHz

    The non- overclocked speed would be 1.93 gigahertz and the BusClock would be 133.

    By doing this we know how to interpret the numbers you are giving us.
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    I think it was a false alarm guys. I ran the sandra benchmarks again and found my CPU in the list this time...everything was pretty normal compared to what my system "should" be at. Oh well, I feel a little stupid but ya learn something new everyday
    Still, here's that full Belarc scan so if anything looks abnormal, please do tell. Thanks again for the help!

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    Operating System System Model
    Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600) americanfuture SK8N To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    System Serial Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    Processor a Main Circuit Board b
    2.20 gigahertz AMD Opteron
    64 kilobyte primary memory cache
    1024 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: ASUSTeK Computer INC. 'SK8N' Rev 1.xx
    Bus Clock: 200 megahertz
    BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. 080009 06/25/2003
    Drives Memory Modules c,d
    122.93 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
    80.05 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

    IDE DVD-ROM 16X [CD-ROM drive]
    WSM-52Z [CD-ROM drive]
    3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]

    IN-WIN iAPP HS-CF USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 1
    IN-WIN iAPP HS-MS USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 2
    IN-WIN iAPP HS-SD/MMC USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 4
    IN-WIN iAPP HS-SM USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 3
    Maxtor 6Y120L0 [Hard drive] (122.94 GB) -- drive 0, s/n Y32XV4FE, rev YAR41BW0, SMART Status: Healthy 1024 Megabytes Installed Memory

    Slot 'DIMM0' has 512 MB (serial number SerNum0)
    Slot 'DIMM1' is Empty
    Slot 'DIMM2' is Empty
    Slot 'DIMM3' is Empty
    Local Drive Volumes

    c: (on drive 0) 122.93 GB 80.05 GB free

    Network Drives
    None detected
    Users Printers
    local user accounts last logon
    Administrator 10/31/2004 4:10:04 PM (admin)
    local system accounts
    Guest never
    HelpAssistant never
    SUPPORT_388945a0 never


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    Canon Bubble-Jet BJC-2000 on LPT1:
    HP DeskJet 690C on \\GATEWAYDESKTOP\Printer3
    Microsoft Office Document Image Writer Driver on Microsoft Document Imaging Writer Port:

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    Standard floppy disk controller
    Primary IDE Channel [Controller]
    Secondary IDE Channel [Controller]
    Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller NVIDIA GeForce FX 5950 Ultra (Omega P 1.5672a) [Display adapter]
    Delta J996-1 [Monitor] (17.7"vis, August 2003)
    Bus Adapters Multimedia
    Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
    Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
    Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller ATI TV Wonder Pro A/V Capture
    ATI TV Wonder Pro A/V Crossbar
    ATI TV Wonder Pro Tuner (Philips 1236 MK3)
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    NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio Codec Interface
    Communications Other Devices
    1394 Net Adapter
    DGE-500T Gigabit Adapter
    NVIDIA nForce MCP Networking Controller
    RAS Async Adapter
    Network Card MAC Address: 00:50:BA:39:160
    Network IP Address: 10.2.5.82 / 22 Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
    USB Human Interface Device
    USB Human Interface Device
    Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
    HID-compliant mouse
    Logitech PS/2 Port Mouse
    USB Mass Storage Device
    USB Root Hub
    USB Root Hub
    USB Root Hub
    Virus Protection
    Norton AntiVirus Version 10.00
    Virus Definitions Version 10/28/2004 Rev 37
    Last Disk Scan on Saturday, October 16, 2004 11:38:41 AM
    Realtime File Scanning On

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