I am. Running a P4 1.7 at 1.87. That does not sound like much but it seems to make things run smoother.
Any one else? I hear that 10% is about the max that one should OC.
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I am. Running a P4 1.7 at 1.87. That does not sound like much but it seems to make things run smoother.
Any one else? I hear that 10% is about the max that one should OC.
I was overclocking my P4 1.7 (423) to just under 2ghz but i had to back it off,because it was too unstable.
I'm running at standard core speed now.
well you guys know Iam.
P4 OCed to 2.77 running at 154
Corsair XMS3500 running at 411 MHZ @ 2-3-3-6
Idle Temps are 36c CPU and 28c MB on a Asus P4PE
Straight core speeds on all components. I was a retard and bought an INTEL MOBO, never again.. though I did get it cheap. My next MOBO purchase will be an ASUS motherboard for sure.
:D
Vid card, overclocked it, benchmarked, didn't improve much, so back to normal. :D
you all know im overclocking, my vid is sitting at 450/990 Gefroce 4 Ti 4600 Ultra Deluxe, my cpu XP 3200 Barton, 3.3 ghz ram is runnin hot voltages are at 1.7 all the way, i got alot of coolin happing im gett a new Case soon that hase 4 fans in front 2 i nthe back one on the side one on the top lol, it will be pumpin cfm like mad, haha,
Bumped my core voltage to 1.75 on a Barton 2800 FSB340,2.125GHz.Stock settings on my Radeon 9500(softmod 9800) right now but have had the core at 324 and the mem at 283 and got a nice 3d2003 score of 4499.I don't want to get carried away with that stuff right now.It's a good all around system.The way to go with ocing right now seems to be with intel chipsets anyhow.I hope AMD will allow multiplyer unlocking on their new cpu's.
I'm considering it. I just read that my 2.6C P4 can hit 3.5 Ghz with the stock fan!
http://www.ocaddiction.com/reviews/c...up/page5.shtml
There is where AMD kinda threw me for a loop when they went back to their old rating system.Don't get me wrong AMD chips have always performed well for me and I've sold a lot of them.They are the poor man's Intel as far as price goes,but I think they should have incorporated unlocked multipliers with their Thoroughbreds and Bartons,without having to epoxy bridges together or buy aftermarket devices.Now from an article I read on the cpu time lines AMD doesn't plan on anything more than their 400fsb for the 32 bit architecture.If they don't go after the Intel Oc'd market prices on Intel cpu's will probably stay high.Are the Speed Wars over?May the nForce be with you.Quote:
Originally posted by Conan
I'm considering it. I just read that my 2.6C P4 can hit 3.5 Ghz with the stock fan!
http://www.ocaddiction.com/reviews/c...up/page5.shtml
:jedi: :D
got my 1700xp(1.47) to just over 2gig. :D starts to get unstable if I go to 2.1 and the benchies didnt improve much so I backed it down to 2000
Not big into OC'ing, but my server is running a AMD1400 which I have clocked up to 1.4 I will probably try to clock it up a little more once I have my server problems resolved.
Conan you have a overclocking monster...your ram is top notch so have at it :D what U waiting for.....Quote:
Originally posted by Conan
I'm considering it. I just read that my 2.6C P4 can hit 3.5 Ghz with the stock fan!
All Thoroughbred "B's" and Bartons have unlocked multipliers :) you need a board that enables you to use them :cool:Quote:
Originally posted by zipp51
I think they should have incorporated unlocked multipliers with their Thoroughbreds and Bartons,without having to epoxy bridges together or buy aftermarket devices.
In OC'n AMD it's the lower multipliers you want because you need to raise the FSB as high as you can and still run the CPU in sync with the ram. Your ASUS A7N8X-D should do this...
If the prices fall on the P4 2.6c/2.8c then AMD will need to come out with a new chip fast or INTEL will kill them....
Stripe...I think servers are suppose to be super stable, not overclocked game rigs...heheQuote:
Originally posted by Stripe
Not big into OC'ing, but my server is running a AMD1400 which I have clocked up to 1.4 I will probably try to clock it up a little more once I have my server problems resolved.
ABIT NF7-S
XP2400 10.5x @210fsb= 2205ghz
Crucial PC3200 @210fsb= 420mhz
ATI 9800pro @400/350= frag-time :D
Got my 'lil xp2000 1678mhz runnin' at 1866 - it will run into the 1900's but i'm staying on the safe side.
Well I upped my FSB to 215 and was almost hitting 3 Ghz. However, my onboard sound ceased to function at that speed!:confused: Why is that? Benched my CPU at that speed with Sandra and was blowing away both Intel 3.2 and AMD 3200.
I put it back to 205 now and my sound is functioning fine. So FastGame, care to guess what's with my sound?:D
I think you broke the sound barrier at that speed.
Whenever you increase the fsb it also increases the bus speed of peripheral cards and onboard features because they are designed to run at a percentage of the fsb.Quote:
Originally posted by Conan
Well I upped my FSB to 215 and was almost hitting 3 Ghz. However, my onboard sound ceased to function at that speed!:confused: Why is that?
There is no point in overclocking,apart from the RAM,unless you are a big gamer.Overclocking for everyday normal usage and playing the occassional game will be of no benefit.
Just my opinion.
So how do you overclock just the RAM, aside from the "PAT" option of my board?
Adjust the latency timings and the interleave.
Depending on your BIOS it should be under "Advanced Chipset Features" or similar.
I already have done that. Optimizing the timings have allowed me to run on "Turbo" mode. However my RAM is rated at 2.5 CAS Latency. I can only run "Ultra-Turbo" if my RAM is 2 CAS Latency. The only option here is to switch to Corsair RAM but it's too expensive of an option at the moment. I'd rather add another 512 mb of TwinMOS.Quote:
Originally posted by Reverend
Adjust the latency timings and the interleave.
Depending on your BIOS it should be under "Advanced Chipset Features" or similar.
try lowering the fsb and raising the cpu multiplier. and upping the cpu voltage.
What is your divider set at ? 1:1. 3:2, 5:4 ??? what are you upping the FSB on ? cpu or ram or both ? anyway I searched the forum's and didn't see where peeps were reporting no sound with high FSB...there were plenty of people running over 230FSB so it must be a setting somewhere that needs to be changed.Quote:
Originally posted by Conan
Well I upped my FSB to 215 and was almost hitting 3 Ghz. However, my onboard sound ceased to function at that speed!:confused: Why is that? Benched my CPU at that speed with Sandra and was blowing away both Intel 3.2 and AMD 3200.
I put it back to 205 now and my sound is functioning fine. So FastGame, care to guess what's with my sound?:D
Conan there are so many things you need to set that aren't the same as AMD...I don't have a clue as what needs to be done with INTEL so if you want to OC then you should hang out at an INTEL forum for a bit...or leave it stock for a month or two till I get mine :D
got a p4 1.7 ghz
not overclocking at all and very happy with the speed.
Thanks Conan for the tip about the 2.6
i am going to get that instead of the 3 ghz and save some serious doe
i used to overclock all the tme with my older celery dayz
The divider or in my BIOS the "CPU Ratio Selection" seems to be locked, not sure if I can change it. I was upping the "CPU Bus Clock", which automatically raised the DDR Clock Mhz along with the "AGP/PCI Clock. I read though in my Overclocking Link that it's possible to lock the AGP/PCI at the lowest level at 33MHz and 66MHz.Quote:
Originally posted by FastGame
What is your divider set at ? 1:1. 3:2, 5:4 ??? what are you upping the FSB on ? cpu or ram or both ? anyway I searched the forum's and didn't see where peeps were reporting no sound with high FSB...there were plenty of people running over 230FSB so it must be a setting somewhere that needs to be changed.
Conan there are so many things you need to set that aren't the same as AMD...I don't have a clue as what needs to be done with INTEL so if you want to OC then you should hang out at an INTEL forum for a bit...or leave it stock for a month or two till I get mine :D
So you're going to migrate to Intel in a month's time?:p
what to do with that 2600xp...huh;)
Wow, this post got a work out yesterday. It took me a while to read the updates to it :p
Interesting reading guys, great post;)
Same here, anyway to lock the DDR clock @333 mhz, or, what?Quote:
Originally posted by Conan
The divider or in my BIOS the "CPU Ratio Selection" seems to be locked, not sure if I can change it. I was upping the "CPU Bus Clock", which automatically raised the DDR Clock Mhz along with the "AGP/PCI Clock. I read though in my Overclocking Link that it's possible to lock the AGP/PCI at the lowest level at 33MHz and 66MHz.
So you're going to migrate to Intel in a month's time?:p
What motherboard are you using?Quote:
Originally posted by Col
Same here, anyway to lock the DDR clock @333 mhz, or, what?
MSI 865PE Neo2Quote:
Originally posted by Conan
What motherboard are you using?
Got to lock it, but it still goes up. Regretably, it also still won't boot, though I killed my system for a few moments.
We have the same board. How were you able to lock the PCI/AGP bus? Did you do this through the BIOS or within Windows? What FSB did you set that caused the lockup? Did you relax the memory timings when you overclocked?Quote:
Originally posted by Col
MSI 865PE Neo2
Got to lock it, but it still goes up. Regretably, it also still won't boot, though I killed my system for a few moments.
quote from Fastgame
All Thoroughbred "B's" and Bartons have unlocked multipliers :) you need a board that enables you to use them :cool:
In OC'n AMD it's the lower multipliers you want because you need to raise the FSB as high as you can and still run the CPU in sync with the ram. Your ASUS A7N8X-D should do this...
I must be doing something wrong because my system won't start and I have to clear the cmos with the jumper to get her going again.Have you also bumped up your core voltage Fastgame?I'm using Kingston HyperX 2700(512mb) single channel.If I leave my mutiplier at 12.5x and raise the FSB to 200 and raise the v-core from 1.69 to 1.85 I should get the speed to 2.5Ghz.Is that possible with the Barton 2800?
You seen, i'm still new to this so, I have no idea what you are taling about with memory timings.Quote:
Originally posted by Conan
We have the same board. How were you able to lock the PCI/AGP bus? Did you do this through the BIOS or within Windows? What FSB did you set that caused the lockup? Did you relax the memory timings when you overclocked?
I used Clockgen to lock my agp/pci mhz, neat little program. And I did all this through the bios, and the FSB seems to freeze it up at 220
he he he that's exactly what i did :)Quote:
Originally posted by Tinker
I am. Running a P4 1.7 at 1.87. That does not sound like much but it seems to make things run smoother.
Any one else? I hear that 10% is about the max that one should OC.
Ah I see Clockgen. Well I've been hanging around the MSI support forums and that's how I've learned more about overclocking and tweaking. Lot's of complaints there too though.Quote:
Originally posted by Col
You seen, i'm still new to this so, I have no idea what you are taling about with memory timings.
I used Clockgen to lock my agp/pci mhz, neat little program. And I did all this through the bios, and the FSB seems to freeze it up at 220
Yeah, hard to find a constructive post there isn't it?Quote:
Originally posted by Conan
Ah I see Clockgen. Well I've been hanging around the MSI support forums and that's how I've learned more about overclocking and tweaking. Lot's of complaints there too though.
Yup, you hit it right on the dot! Sometimes I'm tempted to tell some of the users to stop complaining, it's not MSI's fault it's yours! They keep on complaining about instability when the RAM that they are using isn't even supported by the motherboard! Oh well, live and learn.:DQuote:
Originally posted by Col
Yeah, hard to find a constructive post there isn't it?
By the way Col, how did you find your way over here? Was it through my Sig/link over at MSI forums?:D
Hi zipp, I'm going to list the things for you too try but first I want you to understand that the XP 2800 Barton is *not* the best overclocker when using air cooling and that Kingston HyperX (unless it's the latest revision) is troublesome when run @high FSB in sync with the CPU. You’re going to have better luck because you’re running single channel, dual channel it gets real picky...Quote:
Originally posted by zipp51
I must be doing something wrong because my system won't start and I have to clear the cmos with the jumper to get her going again.Have you also bumped up your core voltage Fastgame?I'm using Kingston HyperX 2700(512mb) single channel.If I leave my mutiplier at 12.5x and raise the FSB to 200 and raise the v-core from 1.69 to 1.85 I should get the speed to 2.5Ghz.Is that possible with the Barton 2800?
*WARNING!* Nforce2 boards suffer from sudden bios death, any bios change *can/may* lead to bios death if the setting's are incorrect!
First you need to see if your ASUS lets you get to the lower multipliers (9 9.5 10 10.5 11..), the early A7N8X's wouldn't do this unless you used the wire trick. The later bios took care of this as did the later revision of A7N8X boards.
Next you need to find the limits of both the CPU and the ram, most overclockers will tell you to lower the CPU multiplier to take the CPU out of the equation then up the FSB on the ram till you find its limit, then raise the CPU multiplier/FSB till you find it's limit. That sounds good but being the "FastGame" that I am I've found through testing that that's the wrong thing to do...why? Because ram will error from more reasons (volts, timings, CPU instructions, heat, single channel/dual channel, sync/async...) than the CPU will (heat, volts). It's best to find the CPU limit first.
I know that your XP2800 Barton is going to run @400fsb just fine, the question is how fast @what volts & will that Kingston HyperX PC2700 do 400fsb with the CPU in sync ??? From my experience the HyperX 2700 isn't going to run @400fsb in sync with the CPU @400fsb (tested in ASUS A7N8X-D & two Abit NF7-S's) :(
*WARNING!* Nforce2 boards suffer from sudden bios death, any bios change *can/may* lead to bios death if the setting's are incorrect!
Make sure you keep notes on all you findings :)
1. In bios your going to use the user defined/expert setting, set the CPU @200=400fsb @stock v-core volts & use the 10 multiplier, now we're going to take the ram out of the equation and set it @133=266fsb you can leave it @stock volts & 2 2 2 5 timing but don't set it @SPD or else it will be running @333fsb instead of 266! Now in the bios there's a setting that says "Halt on all Errors" you need to change that to "No Errors" now save changes and exit bios. Did it boot-up and go into Windows? if so then all is well so far :) now run Prime95 bench test (it will error quick on a bad CPU setting) or loop 3Dmark 2001 or 2003 and if they run fine without locking up or BSOD then your CPU is fine at that setting. Remember that if you can't boot into Windows or Windows & programs lock up then in *most* cases it's the CPU...if you crash (BSOD) it's usually the ram. Check temps on CPU and make sure it's ok.
If things are fine then go back into bios and up the multiplier the next step 10.5, this is the only change you make. Exit bios and repeat the above testing checking CPU temp *under load* also, if everything is ok then back to bios you go and up the multiplier again. You keep repeating this procedure until you get a lockup or crash that’s when you know the CPU has reached its limit @stock voltage.
Ok the next step is to go into bios and raise the v-core voltage and repeat the testing procedure once again @the multiplier the CPU locked up on, keep uping the v-core till the CPU is stable and make sure you keep checking temps! From this point on its back & forth with the multiplier and v-core until you reach 1.85volts v-core. why? Because IMO 1.85 is going to be the safe limit on air cooling and your CPU temperature is now going to enter the equation.....keep it under 47c load for a happy PC :D
Ok now once you've found the limit of the CPU @400 fsb we can move on to the ram.....
*WARNING!* Nforce2 boards suffer from sudden bios death, any bios change *can/may* lead to bios death if the setting/settings are incorrect!
You now know that your CPU is stable @such & such setting @400fsb but we need to take the CPU out of the equation in order to find the ram limits...how? Easy, you go to the notes you kept from the CPU test :) and see where your CPU was perfectly stable @what multiplier @stock v-core volts! note what was the GHZ the CPU was running ? It’s at this GHZ speed that we're going to set the CPU but because the HyperX ram is suspect @400fsb we're going to start out @333fsb both CPU & Ram at sync @333fsb. Since your CPU ran perfectly stable @what ever GHZ @400fsb @stock v-core it should be out of the equation @what ever GHZ @333fsb @stock v-core :)
2. Go into your bios, this time all your settings both CPU and Ram will be *User Defined/Expert* set the CPU @166=333fsb use the multiplier that gave you the last stable setting @stock v-core when you did the 400fsb testing. Set the Ram @166=333fsb now both ram & CPU will be in sync @333fsb, because I know Kingston HyperX PC2700 (trust me) well ;) set the ram voltage to 2.7 and the ram times to 2 3 3 8. Now you will need Memtest86 to check the ram for errors...put the Memtest86 CD in and save changes & exit bios. You will now boot to memtest86 let it run all the test for 1 pass and if there are no errors then back into bios you go & raise the (cpu&ram) FSB and retest...on & on you go till finally you reach a point when the ram reaches it's FSB limit for those timings & that voltage. Once this is found then go back to the last stable error free setting and boot into Windows and use Prime95 and 3Dmarks 2001 or 2003 to make sure everything is ok.
I know what your thinking...< hey can't I change my ram timings and voltage and get better results ? oh and my cpu is still at stock v-core and not running at the same speed that I got in the 400fsb test can I up that also? > maybe...how much time do you have? the testing procedure is laid out, have at it, I've only given you a happy medium to which you can start from all my testing :)
The most important thing when it comes to performance with AMD and Nforce2 is that the CPU & Ram run in *sync* at what ever that FSB limit becomes. Overclocking is an art, a hobby, it's not a science, there are no absolutes, no guarantees, each system is an individual.......
*WARNING!* Nforce2 boards suffer from sudden bios death, any bios change *can/may* lead to bios death if the setting/settings are incorrect!
memtest 86 ISO
Prime 95
Sorry for long post, I was lonely today :rolleyes:Prime 95
Actually, yeap. Seen there was an Overclocking forum and was hoping for some newbie guides to this, from start to finish.Quote:
Originally posted by Conan
By the way Col, how did you find your way over here? Was it through my Sig/link over at MSI forums?:D
And FastGame, got anything like that for a person with say.... a MSI 865PE Neo2, 2x512 Infinion PC2700, P4 2.4c Pentium processor? :D
I wish I did...though the principle basic's are the same for overclocking it does change a bit when it comes to INTEL, I don't know the in's & out's of INTEL :( I think your in good hands with Conan :) he's done alot of research making sure his INTEL rig can kick our AMD butts...lolQuote:
Originally posted by Col
And FastGame, got anything like that for a person with say.... a MSI 865PE Neo2, 2x512 Infinion PC2700, P4 2.4c Pentium processor? :D
Thanks Fastgame.Excellent guide BTW.There are some reports of an A7N8X and Barton 2800 getting 3.46GHz speeds.Most of the others are right around 2.3GHz.Oh and thanks for the warnings LOL.I was just thinking that my best bet for a performance boost may be the dual channel route.What do you think?Specifically if I got another stick of the Kingston Hyper X 2700.Or maybe dump the X and get 2 sticks of matching 3200 or 3500 approved ram in 256mb qty each.