thanx 4 taking the time to help, i really wanna let u know that it meant alot, anyway, im gonna try to reinstall and if that dont work, well the only other info that was at all similar to my problem that ive found was a guy said he couldnt login to build 4029 that was installed on a virtulal machine or something , but said that he was able to on a clean install, im wondering since i used the xp installer and not a disc that might be similar. ill let u know. thanx 4 your time..........EVIL DIKK...P.S. CHECK OUT MY MUSIC ON artistgigs.com .......find EVIL DIKK.....I HAVE 2 SONGS THAT YOU CAN DOWNLOAD 4 FREE