Apple iPod or Rio Karma?

[hotmale]

I'm going to buy an mp3 player. Which one do you recommend- the 20gig iPod or the Rio Karma? Both are the same price, so that doesn't matter. And kindly explain to me based on what you made the choice.
If you have a completely different suggestion, don't hesitate to post it.
Thanks!

[phishhead]

I choose the ipod it just looks cool.

[hotmale]

Thanks for your reply, phish. And keep the votes coming everyone!

[rohitk89]

i have the 20gb ipod as well...i haven't used rio but am of the opinion that ipod is better....like phishhead said it looks just too good to be able to see anything else...plus its very easy to use...coming from me that means a lot...the transfer manager, itunes, is also a very elegant software and takes barely no time to set up and begin operations....

for more info on rio try this: http://www.audioreview.com/PRD_173483_2756crx.aspx

[Big Booger]

Seeing as you can upgrade the HDD up to 137GB in the rio karma, I'd go that route. But with the IPOD style, it's a difficult choice.

My advice, consult the I Ching.

http://flytrapinteractive.com/~complimentary/iching/

[Stripe]

ROFLMAO....

The answer to your question, "should I buy an Apple I-pod or a Rio Karma?" is:
October 8, 2004

48. Ching - The Well
-- --
----- above K'an The Abysmal, Water
-- --
-----
----- below Sun The Gentle, Wind
-- --

The Judgement

The Well. The town may be changed,
But the well cannot be changed.
It neither decreases nor increases.
They come and go and draw from the well.
If one gets down almost to the water
And the rope does not go all the way,
Or the jug breaks, it brings misfortune.

The Image

Water over wood: the image of the Well.
Thus the superior man encourages the people at their work,
And exhorts them to help one another.

Changing Lines

Changing yin at the bottom means:
One does not drink the mud of the well.
No animals come to an old well.

Changing yang in the second place means:
At the wellhole one shoots fishes.
The jug is broken and leaks.

Changing yang in the third place means:
The well is cleaned, but no one drinks from it.
This is my heart's sorrow,
For one might draw from it.
If the king were clear-minded,
Good fortune might be enjoyed in common.

Changing yin in the fourth place means:
The well is being lined. No blame.

Changing yang in the fifth place means:
In the well there is a clear, cold spring
From which one can drink.

Changing yin at the top means:
One draws from the well
Without hindrance.
It is dependable.
Supreme good fortune.

So, don't buy a muddy I-pod

[Big Booger]

yep, as the I Ching says, don't get the Ipod. The I Ching is never wrong

[hotmale]

Thanks for the votes, guys! BTW, both of them can be used as external hard drives, right?

[Stripe]

I would definately go with a Karma after reading the reviews and the specs. just the ability to use other formats makes it awesome.

as for external harddrives...I'm not sure. i did read an article by someone who removed the harddrive from the karma and put it in his camera though

[egghead]

the rio has good features.

my real choice is the Archos AV400


The AV400 experience starts in the living room where you can record TV shows and movies directly from a TV, VCR, or cable / satellite receiver with a convenient one-time set-up TV Cradle. But entertainment enjoyment goes far beyond the living room. When on the go, you can watch videos and view photos on the large color LCD screen, listen to and record music, transfer photos from your digital camera and data files from your PC.

* Record between 80 and up to 400 hours* of TV programs and video content from a TV, VCR, cable box, or satellite receiver using the TV cradle.
* Program recordings using the Recording Scheduler, which directly controls the VCR or set-top box tuner.
* Store and watch between 40 and up to 200* full-length movies.
* Enjoy up to 4 ½ hours of video playback on the color LCD while on the go.
* Download / transfer / record between 300 and up to 1500* hours of music.
* Store and view between 200,000 and up to one million* JPEG photos.
* Play MP3, WMA (including protected files) and WAV music files.
* Listen to and record off the radio (with optional FM Radio & Remote Control).
* Download and store files from a PC

I don't know your budget so you can get the cheaper AV120 from ebay here for $219us

[hotmale]

Can you tell me egghead and Stripe what exactly do you like about the Rio Karma?

And regarding the AV400, my opinion is
How much does the 20GB model cost? My budget is $300 max and I don't want anything used.

However, the iPod's (4.1" x 2.4" x 0.57") and the Karma's (2.7" x 3.0" x 1.1") are tad more impressive than AV400's (4.9" x 3.1" x 0.8"). Don't you agree?

[egghead]

it supports ogg which is higher quality tan mp3

the av400 is very expensive. You can find brand new 300 series on ebay as the company does not have a great distributer. av400 are not on ebay.

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However, the iPod's (4.1" x 2.4" x 0.57") and the Karma's (2.7" x 3.0" x 1.1") are tad more impressive than AV400's (4.9" x 3.1" x 0.8"). Don't you agree?

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the av400 is a multimedia system. I like the idea of having all my mp3's on one machine as well has having some cool movies to watch on tv or the lcd display as well as having the option to record mp3 using the built in mic - good for songwriters and for catching quick ideas. it also shows up as a hd in windows so you can store games or entire dvd's etc.....

I like to have the all-in'one gadget and this does everything

the ipod and rio's lcd display only needs to display text. I would like the option to watch "dawn of the dead" on the subway or catch up on a new episode of the screensavers on the way home. I wish the darn thing could play pacman or streetfighter haha

[hotmale]

Thanks for the detailed explanation, egghead! So the AV400 is far beyond my reach, eh? But I'm still curious, how much does it cost exactly? It truly is an amazing product.

As for the all-purpose gadget thing, what I'm looking for at the moment is an mp3 player that simply plays mp3s - albeit I don't mind some additional features.

[egghead]

http://www.1click2computers.com/prod...64&from_dist=C

http://www.shopgenie.co.uk/theme_the...nline_page_1_/

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...983195-8173710

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...983195-8173710

review,
http://www.tomshardware.com/mobile/20040706/index.html

[hotmale]

Thanks, egghead! So it's between $400-500. Maybe it's not out of my reach after all, but at the same time that's a lot of money. I'll have to think about it.