@ Tarum I believe PaintShop is not a full featured as Photoshop (they have a 400+$ difference) but I think it should do most, and it is a good start. I used Paint Shop pro long time ago (very old version, had it included with something, probably a magazine). This is just an educated guess since I haven't compare Photoshop with Painter, and I can't since I can't use either

About the POV, I think I check it out the web site before, but I had forgotten about it. Thanks. Now I have another program that I would love to use. I am trying to learn to use Vectors (my curent favorite) using Expression. I like the point that I can edit objets individually. I was going to try to learn photoshop, and maybe get a drawing tablet, and not I have POv for 3 d

@ Veronica Evanescence according to AllMusic is
Goth Metal, Alternative Metal, Post-Grunge
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