Sorry to hear about the faulty 3rd party apps..[1]

are the built-in VISTA versions not good enough? [2]

I haven't run defragger in a while, so, i think the normal one should suffice rather than experimenting with dodgy software! [3]

Do you have any restore points left? [4]
[1] I think that it is vista that is crummy.

[2] nope. The vista defragger takes all day, even if you did not download, delete or move any files.

[3] It is not dodgy software. It is rated as the best.

[4] I have Restore points now because I got a new defragger.

Thanks for replying.