Okay, have been gone for awhile. Did as the Reverend said, but it didn't help. My bright idea of doing it from boot.ini resulted in a continuous boot loop. . Somewhere along the way of trying to F8 out of everything, I stumbled on someting that worked. Went ahead and uninstalled video anyway; just in case. There appears to be one way to get to safe mode. Last known good configuration. Why it holds safe mode, I don't know, but I ain't complaining. Of course, while I was there I ran every scanner I had, sfc /scannow, chkdsk /r, you name it I did it. It had taken me twelve days to get there, I wasn't going to waste it. Now I'm satisfied it isn't a bad guy (I think?). I have checked for a redirect to wininit. The last driver to load that I can see in api. I DO HAVE NERO. Thanks for the tip Reverend, I would hate to lose it. Didn't want anyone here to think I had just dropped off; I know so many do. There are a lot of memtest pgms out there. Who's trustworthy? Powere Supply shouldn't be bad; fairly new, but who knows. Guess I could bench the system. I don't have the necessary diagnostics.